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How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Yes, you said it was happening currently, so I tried it. The problem you're complaining about doesn't actually appear to exist, at least not objectively.

You are using a different query it seems. Also as a non native speaker you appear to be rude.

They aren't being rude, just increasing the sample size and reporting back. Perhaps we're witnessing SEO for different regions, regulations, and aggregate history of the two.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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You're not their customer, advertisers are, so it's only natural that the ads you see aren't personalized. That's never been the goal. It is, however, technically a potential benefit that the more exactly advertisers can target you, the more relevant ads you could be seeing, which is a wonderful sales pitch for users who are agnostic anyway, but that's not how advertising works in practice.

> You're not their customer, advertisers are, 1. I'm well aware of this 2. It doesn't contradict anything I wrote 3. I've read it so many times and seen it misapplied so many times it is getting annoying. > so it's only natural that the ads you see aren't personalized. That's never been the goal. I doubt it was the intent of the advertisers to waste expensive impressions on people who weren't in the target audience a…

Meme? If hearing this uttered bothers you this much, then maybe complaining about poor relevance in Google ads isn't such a good idea.

I'm sorry that I seem to have offended you.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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To me it seems the problem with Google goes far deeper than struggling with bad SEO. - For years it has been next to impossible to get a result that is faithful to the search you actually typed in. This is not dependent on SEO spammers at all, only on Googles unwillingness to accept that not every user is equal and some of us mean exactly what we write, especially when we take the time to enclose our queries in doubl…

> "For years it has been next to impossible to get a result that is faithful to the search you actually typed in." Good lord, yes. If I type two words, I want preference for sites that contain both of them, yet the first results all have either one or the other, because surely I must be more interested in a popular site that uses only one of these, right? Google is sometimes too smart, trying to interpret exact words…

> "They have a tendency to show you ads for exactly the thing you don't need anymore because you already found it. I don't think AI is in any danger of taking over the world just yet."

There's an eschatological trait to targeted advertising, as it seems to be all about past sins. So I'm not too sure about your evaluation and AI's own claims…

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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I see mainly two problems: - Affiliate spam from douchebags that provide "reviews" of products just to link back to Amazon. Makes it nearly impossible to find actual reviews of products. - People who type whole sentences in natural language into Google. I tried since I used the internet to serach for keywords, omit as much words as possible that aren't necessary. Most people (after I guess ~2010?) don't. This worsens…

Wow! Now people who know how to type using proper grammar and vocabulary are a problem???

When it comes to search engines: Yes. They are.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Wow! Now people who know how to type using proper grammar and vocabulary are a problem???

Not OP, but let's say you want to find out the protein content of brussels sprouts. I would type `protein content brussels sprouts` (without quotes) because I fully understand that the information I'm seeking might be in some tabular form, or phrased in a way I don't anticipate. Most non-technical people however would type in `What is the protein content of brussels sprouts?` literally. This leads content creators wh…

This.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

I like playing around with "Million Short" - https://millionshort.com . It's a search engine that lets you logarithmically filter-out the top websites. It isn't perfect, of course, but its a fun way to discover things.

I love the idea and have tried to use their service a number of times over the years. I've never been terribly happy with the results.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Not OP, but let's say you want to find out the protein content of brussels sprouts. I would type `protein content brussels sprouts` (without quotes) because I fully understand that the information I'm seeking might be in some tabular form, or phrased in a way I don't anticipate. Most non-technical people however would type in `What is the protein content of brussels sprouts?` literally. This leads content creators wh…

Interesting. Why do you think that content creators wouldn't see `protein content brussels sprouts` in "keyword analysis tools"? Why do you think they wouldn't create millions of blog posts containing words `protein content brussels sprouts` or countless variations thereof?

They do, but the whole-sentence fraction is probably in the majority. Which leads to degraded search results and optimisation in the wrong direction.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

To me it seems the problem with Google goes far deeper than struggling with bad SEO. - For years it has been next to impossible to get a result that is faithful to the search you actually typed in. This is not dependent on SEO spammers at all, only on Googles unwillingness to accept that not every user is equal and some of us mean exactly what we write, especially when we take the time to enclose our queries in doubl…

That's why I miss pre-Google search engines such as AltaVista and alltheweb. "If you searched for "some obscure string of words" you would only get results that matches that exact string. I really don't like how Google just chooses to vary the spelling of your query when a match isn't found. I often search for electronics components using their part number. I'll type in something like "P204PPX" (a random code I just made up) and despite there being no match Google still gives me pages of results that are nowhere near what I was looking for.

And the worst thing is that this is all done to keep those ad dollars flowing. Look at how many companies always have a paid advert associated with their name when a search is made. They are paranoid about losing rank due to Google fiddling their algorithm or someone else doing a better SEO job using their brand.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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> You're not their customer, advertisers are, 1. I'm well aware of this 2. It doesn't contradict anything I wrote 3. I've read it so many times and seen it misapplied so many times it is getting annoying. > so it's only natural that the ads you see aren't personalized. That's never been the goal. I doubt it was the intent of the advertisers to waste expensive impressions on people who weren't in the target audience a…

Meme? If hearing this uttered bothers you this much, then maybe complaining about poor relevance in Google ads isn't such a good idea. I'm sorry that I seem to have offended you.

I'll try to explain:

My post may contain a meme but it was directly relevant to the post above.

Mentioning that I'm not Googles customer is significantly less relevant (I think irrelevant) when it is obvious that it should have been in the actual customers best interest to avoid spamming me with expensive and utterly irrelevant ads.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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You are using a different query it seems. Also as a non native speaker you appear to be rude.

They aren't being rude, just increasing the sample size and reporting back. Perhaps we're witnessing SEO for different regions, regulations, and aggregate history of the two.

Again, I'm not a native speaker, here are the exact words that krapp used:

- "Don't know what to tell you."

- "The problem you're complaining about doesn't actually appear to exist, at least not objectively."

In my limited experience I don't see any reasons to use these exact words in this context except to belittle..?

Anyone care to explain? My seatbelt is fastened and I'm ready to learn (and apologize if necessary :-).

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