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TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by afterburner »

microcolonel wrote: post #67
afterburner wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, why give them a free pass for asshole behaviour? You can shame them and leave them alone.

Who are they being assholes to? You don't have a right to invade people's private spaces. I don't have to invite you into my home. Provided it's not a matter of a protected characteristic, the idea that you can push your way through the door by law is silly. They go there to meet people who titilate them, and who don't remind them of how life can go wrong; that's their business in my view. I know that I'm not attract…

> push your way through the door by law

I guess you missed the part where I said you can leave them alone.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by scotty79 »

nixpulvis wrote: post #23
Consultant32452 wrote: post #10

This is what happens when you mix utilitarian morality with a desire to stop online bullying. You just stop letting the most likely targets of bullying be seen. This is much cheaper and easier than trying to get rid of everyone who has ever been mean online, because that's everyone.

But it's just "The Algorithm"... /s

The Algorithm is people!

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by afterburner »

catalogia wrote: post #59
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #24

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I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

If the pretty people don't want an ugly guy like me around, then why would an ugly guy like me want to hang out with those pretty people? It seems like a "nothing of value was lost" situation. I'd rather hang out with people that enjoy my presence. What would shaming them for this accomplish? Is the idea to shame them so much that they pretend to like ugly people like me? What would be the point of that?

Why would you not shame them? Shaming is free and legally inconsequential. You are essentially saying no one has the right to complain.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by volak »

s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #39

> These same documents show moderators were also told to censor political speech in TikTok livestreams, punishing those who harmed “national honor” or broadcast streams about “state organs such as police” with bans from the platform. This is the story. Why would anyone use a CPC social media platform?

Presumably because a lot of attractive young people do

That's explicitly the point.

Yes its evil and manipulative - but everyone should understand CPC is not above such tactics. And neither are pop magazines, holywood.. other people

Its an ugly world out there

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by continuations »

TikTok has a long history of doing shady things:

* TikTok's local moderation guidelines ban pro-LGBT content - Chinese-owned social media app bans such content even in countries where homosexuality has never been illegal [1]

* Revealed: how TikTok censors videos that do not please Beijing - Leak spells out how social media app advances China’s foreign policy aims [2]

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/26/tiktoks-l...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/25/revealed-...

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by rtkwe »

finnh wrote: post #62
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #24

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I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

unattractive people are not a protected class

Doesn't mean it's not a shitty thing to do.

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Post by Quarrelsome »

ShorsHammer wrote: post #56
afterburner wrote: post #41

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> So should high end nightclubs be publicly shamed for doing what they do (when what their "users" want is exactly non-ugly people) and driven out of business? Sure, why not?

Should MENSA be shutdown on the grounds of it's discriminatory membership model?

I'm not sure that's a great example because its probably a better experience to be outside of MENSA than inside it.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by ct520 »

makes sense to me. Isnt this how society works at large? Cute hostess at the front of a restaurant to great you. Top sales earners are usually in decent shape and charismatic. Society segregates itself away from the poor. Sounds like tech imitating real life to me. (to be clear not saying its right, but giving my opinion on what I perceive in society and how this aligns to it)

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by dependenttypes »

finnh wrote: post #62
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

unattractive people are not a protected class

I am unsure how this is relevant. "protected class" is a legal term, it has nothing to do with morality.

In addition to that I doubt that refusing to sell a cake to someone because they are ugly would be considered an acceptable thing in a court of law.

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