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Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Post by cortesoft »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #22
JPKab wrote: post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Probably best to shut them down too early or not at all. Grandparents tend to be relied upon as babysitters in time of need, so if you wait until transmission among school children is widespread your actions just delivered the virus to some of the most vulnerable populations.

Assuming grandparents live near their families, and are alive, and are capable of child care.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Post by dv_dt »

JPKab wrote: post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

This is an analysis if you just shutdown schools, if you send all but critical for food/power/utilities workers home and pay them, then the assumptions are completely different.

I wonder what basically a 2-4 week vacation for an entire nation looks like.

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Post by martin_bech »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #3
mixmax wrote: post #2

Also, all public sector employees who do not perform critical functions will be sent home on paid leave, and all private companies are recommended to do the same. On top of this all public gatherings of more than 100 people is discouraged, and it is alsp encouraged for all bars and nightclubs to keep closed for now. These are expected to be signed into law within the week.

Are businesses being provided lines of credit or other funding sources to continue paying employees while their income might decline in the short term? Or are they able/expected to pay out of cash reserves or existing business credit lines?

For starters VAT and payroll taxes deadlines will be extended, more measures will come. People who have been forced to cancel major events, will be refunded.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Post by gotstad »

kristiandupont wrote: post #48
jyriand wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any reasoning/science behind 100 people? Why 100 but not 1000 or 50?

Not really. The PM was asked about that and she just said it was a pretty arbitrary number but something they deemed sound for now.

It’s probably not feasible to come up with anything but an arbitrary number. But 100 allows for important meetings and some ceremonies. More than that are usually public events.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Post by arcticbull »

undreren wrote: post #66
arcticbull wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0.5% lethal according to the latest stats — or 99.5% non-lethal for you optimists out there.

These are iniatives to spare the old and the weak. How little regard do you have for these people? Their mortality rate is way higher than 0.5%

Read my response to a sister comment.

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Post by duxup »

guerrilla wrote: post #63
duxup wrote: post #19

It will be interesting to see how these things / if they help. The scale of impact and longevity of these shutdowns could be dramatic. Keeping kids home certainly restricts what parents can do. Some of whom may be needed to do other things. Is there really a lot of good data to know, this will do a thing?

> Keeping kids home certainly restricts what parents can do. Some of whom may be needed to do other things. Nope, not in Denmark: if they're needed then they are exempt.

Exempt as in their kids can go to daycare?

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Post by cortesoft »

simplyinfinity wrote: post #40
nikolay wrote: post #11

Smart move! Ignoring the best practice of preventing loss of life during pandemics will be a costly mistake!

According to cdc expert, kids up to 19 mostly don't get sick, or if they do, it's not as bad as in adults over 40 https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

They still get infected, so they can still pass it on to others.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Post by hef19898 »

bitL wrote: post #61

About time... They might be able to reduce R0 < 1 and be done with the pandemics in 3-4 weeks. On the other hand, Spain and Germany are going to blow up next week, Italy-style.

What makes you think that? Seriously asking, because I don't see that risk right now. Also, if it does blow up like Italy we will just have to take it up from there, no point in arguing about the past.
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