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How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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> VP level jobs are more about management skills than technical proficiency. I would say this is true for all mid-management and up. Tech proficiency is largely irrelevant once you go into management.

Strange comment. How could you be a good data science leader if you are not a good data scientist? Could you equally be a good CFO if you didn't have technical skills in finance?

because I didn't say(or know) if OP was a 'good' leader.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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Key lessons that I'm picking up: > In year two I was internally transferred to the workforce analytics team, working to forecast job demand and build a job recommendation engine to move people within the organization. I'm hearing this a lot from friends. > On the side, I continued self-learning. I picked up Python (love it) and took classes in machine learning. Spark, a shiny (pun intended) big data framework was eme…

Is this satire? I can't tell.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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Awesome work, Eugene! I had almost the exact same experience going from a psychology degree, to coding in SF, to heading up analytics for the Trail Blazers. Luck, self-study, and Kaggle! Really cool to hear that someone else also took the psychology to data analysis route.

Me three (except for the VP part ;))

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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When I was doing a cyber training exercise in the military, we had an Air Force general tell us that the best technical officers they had started out with non-technical degrees. They said that officers with undergrad degrees in things like IT, Software Engineering, and Computer Science, weren't very good at thinking outside of the box because everything they did was fairly low level and had a provably correct solutio…

Look, there is an essential difference between what is an engineer and what is a technical person. The later want direction, projects broken into epics and then stories, and wants steps. Engineers can make that structure and work better in ill defined problem areas. That's not a flaw. What is a flaw is when tech never progresses to engineer. That's bad for the individual, team, company, and client. Leadership then (in the drucker or tqm sense) is important. Look at IBM pre/post gernster and Microsoft pre/post balmer.

In short rigidity on the part of individuals combined with countervailing organizational goals to combatting same is the issue.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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And if there is a place like no other that needs out of the box thinking, it must be the military. This sounds like a shtick. The kind of mentality that made them put STOVL in the requirements for the F-35.

STOVL was a requirement because they are replacing the aging harrier jumpjet

Isn’t it supposed to replace like 8 different jets? Seems like an overloaded set of requirements.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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very inspring story. thanks for sharing.

i experience many things similar with yours.

- progress plateau is scary. whenever i experience this, I try very hard to get out of it.

> I needed practice too. The data team wanted to launch an internal newsletter to spread awareness—I volunteered. Someone had to visit overseas markets to do a data science roadshow—I volunteered. We wanted to present our work at conferences—I volunteered.

this is where I'm currently at.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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When I was doing a cyber training exercise in the military, we had an Air Force general tell us that the best technical officers they had started out with non-technical degrees. They said that officers with undergrad degrees in things like IT, Software Engineering, and Computer Science, weren't very good at thinking outside of the box because everything they did was fairly low level and had a provably correct solutio…

As a technical person, I find it interesting that so many technical people are that way. I start to get into a motivational rut if all I'm doing is working on a list of technical things to complete. Engineering disciplines are some of the few degrees that provide you the ability to both directly solve other people's problems and have close customer contact - that was a major reason why software engineering attracted…

>Engineering disciplines are some of the few degrees that provide you the ability to both directly solve other people's problems and have close customer contact

Douglas Adams made his career reiterating the cliche engineers do not communicate with the customer.

Re: How I Did It: From Psych Degree to VP of Data Science at Top Startup

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Ok, this is shameless self promotion masquerading as a casual, "Hey I've got an interesting story". I notice that he conveniently left out the part where Alibaba promoted him to VP, Data Science at the same time he started an MSc at Georga Tech which he completed in two years which is an impressive thing to do while you're working so I suspect there is more to the story. If working in NYC has taught me anything, always be promoting yourself while simultaneously putting everyone else down. "I guess I just worked harder and smarter than all those PhD's around me".
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