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How to Take Smart Notes

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Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#71

The most important improvement to my note taking was the elimination of a computer. Ideas, digressions, illustrations, concerns, and more are difficult to translate to a machine using a keyboard or mouse. A tablet is better, but the fidelity of a drawing app isn't as good as paper. Paper, it turns out, is always "on". There's no battery to worry about, no booting up and loading the app, and no Slack notification inte…

This is fine until you lose the paper/notebook.

Computer notes tend to be un-forgettable and also open to machine indexing and searching.

As a Moleskine aficionado, one thing to mention is that I prefer the squared paper, soft cover, and certain colors (depending on the subject). They make 3 or 4 different sizes, all in hard and soft cover, and I believe around 4 colors. Frustratingly one tends to never find all permutations in stock in any particular store: invariable the combination you're looking for is not there. Even via Amazon every option is not in stock at any particular time. However, I recently discovered by chance that there are Moleskine corporate stores. I visited the one in Century City Mall in Beverly Hills: they had absolutely every combination of size, cover, paper, color available, and actually some options I had never seen before such as a "double thick" version of the 8x5.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#72

Note-taking seems to have gained popularity on HackerNews over the past few weeks (or my attention has been biased towards these submissions, at least). I've long been interested in the domain of "personal knowledge engineering" and this clearly seems a common thread within our community. As a brief overview of the "SOTA:" * Emacs and Vim users skew towards Org-mode or Vim wiki. * Roam Research is sort of a recent we…

There's also the category of "infinite outliner apps". The OG of these is Workflowy[1] which is a minimalist's take on the idea. Personally, I use Dynalist[2] which is Workflowy with more features.

My current problem with these tools is that I tend to treat them as mostly a "write-only" medium. i.e., I don't really refer back to them that often. What I'm really looking for is a tool that will let me _serendipitously_ encounter ideas from the past. For that, I think that Roam[3] with its Mediawiki style "backlinks" might be the next thing that I spend some serious time with.

Either that or a tool that somehow encourages me to refactor thoughts from the past into more (currently) useful content.

[1] https://workflowy.com/

[2] https://dynalist.io/

[3] https://roamresearch.com/

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#74
In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently.

Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.)

I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and I wrote it off, but I've been taking a closer look recently and its _incredibly_ powerful, as well as completely customizable and open source. It runs off of a micro-kernel architecture, so the core application itself is implemented in code that you can change, edit, and manage just like you would do with your own notes. It's really easy to get started (it's a self contained HTML file) but seems so have some robust saving and backup functionality.

Please please give it a look if you're looking at tools in this space. I've already started using it and I'm _very_ happy with it.

(Not affiliated with Tiddlywiki, just a really happy user.)

[0]: https://roamresearch.com [1]: https://tiddlywiki.com

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#75

The most important improvement to my note taking was the elimination of a computer. Ideas, digressions, illustrations, concerns, and more are difficult to translate to a machine using a keyboard or mouse. A tablet is better, but the fidelity of a drawing app isn't as good as paper. Paper, it turns out, is always "on". There's no battery to worry about, no booting up and loading the app, and no Slack notification inte…

> the more enjoyable a tool is to use, the more likely you are to use it

That's why I often use a tablet and stylus for anything I intend to keep. I enjoy using the gear. I like having pens and markers created exactly how I like them and they never run out. I like being able to make my paper as big as I want it to be. Sometimes I want blank paper, sometimes dot grid, sometimes lines, etc... and I can have them all in the same notebook. I like that my handwriting is recognized and I can search it. It's great being able to paste in an image that I capture with the camera or find on the web. It's nice being able to move a paragraph to make space for something I forgot.

I don't have trouble with Slack or email because they aren't installed. No notifications are allowed on the tablet, except for OS-related ones (ie an update is available).

That said, I do still use a paper and pen all the time as well. I like paper and pen in meetings to capture and then after the meeting I format and transfer the notes to my digital system. I like pen and paper when I'm on the phone because I like scribbling and doodling as I talk.

Basically the divide comes down to what is ephemeral and what I want to keep. Anything that needs to last has to be digital for me.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#77

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#78
During my work as a business/data analyst, I have found a way to organize my project notes, scripts, dashboards and spreadsheets.

PART I - Paper notes (Yes I still keep paper notes)

1 - Prepare a batch of 10-20 prints of my special note-taking pdf for each project, depending on the size (small if within 4 sprints, and big if more than 4);

2 - Write down names of attendees during the meetings, so that I know who to contact when I need info

3 - Prepare a folder for each project and always put the notes, one page for a meeting, in the following order:

Top -> Always the most urgent or important meeting notes. E.g. KPI meetings, or telemetry meetings

Then I put the rest meeting notes on reverse chronological order (most recent at top)

In this way, I can always review the previous meetings, as well as the most urgent issues in under 5 minutes, which is good because I work in Agile and in most of the companies that I worked for, this means Fast, not Efficient.

PART II - Electronic notes, scripts, dashboards and spreadsheets

I have a top-level One-Drive folder called "Company_Team_Name", which is also shared between Win10 (Host) and Ubuntu (VirtualBox). I have two child folders under it, "Company_Team_Name/Project" and "Company_Team_Name/Task".

I use the following tools:

Excel, for results of analysis and other stuffs;

SQL, my bread and butter;

Python, sometimes I write Python scripts to help my analysis. I do not like notebooks so I write fully operational programs;

Shell, some Linux command line tools, like csvsql, are very useful for simple tasks;

Tableau, for all dashboards;

Typora, for all research note taking

I organize the project folders in Datagrip, as I pretty much need SQL for every report.

1 - In Ubuntu/Win10, create a new folder under "Company_Team_Name/Project" with the name of the new project, assuming it's a 4+ JIRA long project, not an overnight task.

2 - In Datagrip, create the following folders for each report (I worked long enough to know that we need these reports):

"./Pre_Analysis" -> For pre analysis of the project, usually some data dumps or small analysis of similar features in the past;

"./AB_Test";

"./Small_Analysis" -> We usually release a feature to only 5%-20% of the population for technical sanity check and small analysis (actually same as full analysis but only on most important KPIs);

"./Full_Analysis" -> 100% population Full Analysis, usually performed twice because CXOs will require a more detailed look after reading the first full analysis;

"./Tableau" -> put all dashboards here

3 - SQL scripts, Python scripts, Typora mds and Excel spreadsheets will be grouped under each report sub folder

In the meantime, I'm considering writing a shell script, or a Python script to automate creating those folders. I'm also considering using each Project folder as the venv directory for Python, but since all projects use the same Python package configuration (pandas, odbc, etc.) I just install packages on the primary Python interpreter.

This is a configuration that I find to be extremely efficient to work in an Agile environment.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#79

The most important improvement to my note taking was the elimination of a computer. Ideas, digressions, illustrations, concerns, and more are difficult to translate to a machine using a keyboard or mouse. A tablet is better, but the fidelity of a drawing app isn't as good as paper. Paper, it turns out, is always "on". There's no battery to worry about, no booting up and loading the app, and no Slack notification inte…

I’d love to be able to use paper notes, but I’ve always found writing physically uncomfortable, and my writing is so bad that even I can’t necessarily read old notes!

And how do you find “all the notes about GCC” without some kind of library index system?

So for me it’s text files in Markdown, shared between my devices, with a variety of ways to search and display them.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

#80

The most important improvement to my note taking was the elimination of a computer. Ideas, digressions, illustrations, concerns, and more are difficult to translate to a machine using a keyboard or mouse. A tablet is better, but the fidelity of a drawing app isn't as good as paper. Paper, it turns out, is always "on". There's no battery to worry about, no booting up and loading the app, and no Slack notification inte…

> the more enjoyable a tool is to use, the more likely you are to use it That's why I often use a tablet and stylus for anything I intend to keep. I enjoy using the gear. I like having pens and markers created exactly how I like them and they never run out. I like being able to make my paper as big as I want it to be. Sometimes I want blank paper, sometimes dot grid, sometimes lines, etc... and I can have them all in…

I, too, thoroughly enjoy using a tablet. I have been on the hunt for something that has an organizational structure like graphs, paired with support for pen inputs. Right now I've been using OneNote and it is falling victim to the described problem of greater and greater segmentation of ideas.

Right now, it seems like the only real solution is to homebrew something that hits the Microsoft API and associates document IDs to contexts, then launches OneNote for the given document when it comes time to view/edit.

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