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France, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all qualify for most American definitions of the term "Socialist".

No, they do not. All of those countries have market economies.

Not the real definition, but the definition in most americans' heads. Many probably also conflate those with communism.

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Seriously, why is this flagged? I think it's very interesting and something definitely worthy of discussion. Is this just that anything that remotely appears to dis capitalism gets the flag because 'socialism is scary'?

Yes. Hackernews must be PMC friendly to court VC ideasmen.

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The illustrator could have made more of a point about quite how exponentially wider each lower layer of the pyramid is compared to the layers above.

Except the same is true for non capitalist systems so it would not have been relevant. In socialism the poor are even more numerous compared to the favored few from the party in power. Inequality is not a capitalism only issue.

I love how people who support capitalism always draw it in opposition to dictatorial socialism, implying that the democratic socialism we see in many European countries is impossible to achieve or non-existent.

It's one of the most simple logical fallacies -- the strawman. Everyone should have learned about this in high school at the latest, yet there are plenty of very smart people on HN touting this viewpoint. It's sad, really, how people lie to themselves in an attempt to convince themselves they are morally superior.

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France, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all qualify for most American definitions of the term "Socialist".

Those are all market economies. You're are factually incorrect and trying to cover it using "American definitions". None of those places are socialist and will actively tell you so if asked.

None of those places are capitalist either, and they will actively tell you so if asked.

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You mean like what the U.S. did to Central American countries during the 80s? OR Vietnam, where we overthrew a democratically elected socialist government and installed a puppet, then dropped napalm on them when the didn't like that?

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That makes it even weirder, because Europe is a lot more leftist than the USA.

AFAIK nowhere in the world software engineering is as appreciated and treated seriously as in the US. I assume maybe Canada and Australia are very close. But in some countries (not gonna name names), it's not even worth to put yourself through all these years of hard education. You'd be better off becoming an accountant.

Its worth it. Accountant/software engineer is similar amount of study in Australia at least. Similar pay as employee too. Just the work thats different

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AFAIK nowhere in the world software engineering is as appreciated and treated seriously as in the US. I assume maybe Canada and Australia are very close. But in some countries (not gonna name names), it's not even worth to put yourself through all these years of hard education. You'd be better off becoming an accountant.

Its worth it. Accountant/software engineer is similar amount of study in Australia at least. Similar pay as employee too. Just the work thats different

I assumed Australia can be quite good in this regard. I had a bit less developed countries in my mind (we even have those in EU).
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