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Wacom tablets track every app you open

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Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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post #30

Wacom has application specific settings for compatibility. You can't have that feature without tracking individual processes and that data would be important for any sort of troubleshooting. It should be anonymized and they should be clear about what they are collecting, but the data does have a legitimate and benign use at least.

> Wacom has application specific settings for compatibility.

I say: better to be incompatible instead.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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I received one as a gift but, to be honest, I never used it after seeing the obscure mandatory propietary format to save the files. If I can't open my files later in GNU and there is not a method at sight to save it as jpeg, png, etc... is useless. Just a cheap model probably. Collecting dust somewhere.

My other wacom, and older model, was awesome as a mouse replacement; but it toke months to work in Linux and I don't feel too much inclined to repeat the experience.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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post #21

The best part is where the author admits to using google analytics himself to track who visits his blog. At some point we all have to say enough is enough.

I've read a lot of comments recently about how Google Analytics is bad, but no one explain why. Can I ask why this is not something people want? Is it not anonymised?

One reason why is that Google Analytics is not being limited to giving the web site owner traffic information, the analytics are also being used by Google to collect and correlate larger traffic patterns, as well as track individual users across multiple sites. These are things Google gets to see, but the neither the site owners nor the users have access to. What Google does exactly with this information is not entirely known outside of Google, though it's certainly used at least to improve personalized advertising, which many people feel is a privacy concern.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

#74
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO the more simple explanation is they want this data to sell to data aggregators, who can in turn enrich the profile they have on you. There's a similar thing going on with smart TVs, right?

That seems pretty unlikely for a mid sized, independently operated/capitalized Japanese company tbh.

Unless they want easy money. Show me a modern mid-sized, independently operated/capitalized corporation that doesn't want it.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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post #49

On Linux you'd be using the community-maintained drivers[0], so I assume this wouldn't be a problem (correct me if I'm wrong). But as far as I can tell, there's not equivalent Open Wacom drivers for Windows. People with more Windows knowledge than me: any thoughts on why? Is it just that someone using Windows probably doesn't care about Open drivers, so the demand isn't there? Or is there something about Windows that…

Clearly this isn't a trivial or very fun job (last time I used them, the Linux drivers were buggy as hell). Who would have the motivation to do it on Windows, where you have a driver that works and users have little expectation of privacy to begin with?

The Linux drivers for Wacom tablets have never been buggy in the past decade in a half I’ve used them. Other parts of the stack (Xinput, libinput, GUI libraries) have been, but the actual driver provides good data to userspace.

Even then, to me the drivers on Linux have been perpetually less buggy. On Windows I found myself needing to restart the usermode service and restart applications frequently, especially if the USB connection was unreliable. The Linux driver did not have similar issues.

For example, you’ll never have to follow this guide on Linux: https://www.deviantart.com/kiiroikat/art/How-to-Fix-Wacom-Dr...

I don’t recall having issues with the Mac drivers either.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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Saw this two nights ago installing the driver on Windows 10. Read the UELA. Did not consent, closed the window. Is that good enough? By the way, My tablet works MUCH BETTER on Ubuntu and Mint than on Windows 10. Krita and MyPaint are cross platform so I might just do my art on a *nix box instead.

Off topic, but would you be willing to expand on your Linux experiences with this?

I'm currently doing all of my digital drawing on an old SP3 tablet running Manjaro, via Krita. The driver support is... acceptable, I guess. Krita has more than a few annoying edges, but shows a lot of potential so I've been sticking with it.

For a long time I've been considering springing for a dedicated setup with one of Wacom's larger devices, but I've held back because I need it to have completely solid Linux support and I can't figure out how to test that in advance. I'm always curious to get more info about what issues other people have seen.

I wish I could find a physical store where I could just bring in a laptop, plug it into the actual device, and draw for maybe an hour to figure out if there are any dealbreaking problems.

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> On Linux...this wouldn't be a problem This , perhaps not, but Linux distros track app usage, too: https://popcon.debian.org/

... if you install and configure popularity-contest, which includes an explicit opt-in process [0] and it still doesn't track usage, merely installation. [0] http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/con...

It's a tiny bit more than that: popcon weekly reports which packages have been used that week based on their atime. atime, ctime and filename are reported (the times are truncated to a multiple of twelve hours).

See https://popcon.debian.org/FAQ (thanks to toastal for the link).

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

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Saw this two nights ago installing the driver on Windows 10. Read the UELA. Did not consent, closed the window. Is that good enough? By the way, My tablet works MUCH BETTER on Ubuntu and Mint than on Windows 10. Krita and MyPaint are cross platform so I might just do my art on a *nix box instead.

Which tablet are you talking about just out of curiosity?

Re: Wacom tablets track every app you open

#79

I'm fine with Wacom collecting this kind of data as long as it doesn't open any security holes. There are certain classes of products where I would not care what they collected as long as it was relevant to improving the product. i.e. Wacom wants to know popular apps I use my tablet on, ok. If they wanted to know my approx location though then I'd be alarmed.

Haven't you thought that they know this already by your ip address? ;)
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