I bet someone bought location data for legislators and showed it to them.
Carrier sales of phone-location data is illegal, FCC plans punishment
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#72Biggest industry affected is the banks. They’ll ping your phone location if you make out of area purchases as a part of fraud detection. If your bank doesn’t require travel notices, they are probably pulling mobile location. Some don’t, I know chase uses mobile app to determine location.
This isn’t a carrier selling the data issue. In the mobile app case you install the app and authorize location tracking.
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#73Imagine someone time traveled here from 30 years ago first learning what cell phones are then seeing this headline. Why is this even debatable?
Boiling frog syndrome.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Supreme Court ruled in 2018 that obtaining phone location data requires a warrant. [1] So no, neither one is okay. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpenter_v._United_States
They (NSA / govt) still warehouse it. They just don’t access it without a warrant. That is the current legal fiction they operate the surveillance state under.
NSA monitors foreign traffic.
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#75Biggest industry affected is the banks. They’ll ping your phone location if you make out of area purchases as a part of fraud detection. If your bank doesn’t require travel notices, they are probably pulling mobile location. Some don’t, I know chase uses mobile app to determine location.
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#76Imagine someone time traveled here from 30 years ago first learning what cell phones are then seeing this headline. Why is this even debatable?
Boiling frog syndrome.
>The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death.
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#77"one or more"
hint: it's all of them
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#78Presumably this only happened because the : > lawmakers in November accused[1] the FCC of failing to protect consumers’ privacy, and said that major wireless carriers were disclosing real-time location to data compilers without consumers’ consent or knowledge. The information could be obtained by companies including bounty hunters, the lawmakers said in a letter. > [1]: https://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/democrat…
> The FCC really has become just a lobbying goat under Pai. Yikes.
Who could’ve predicted that, given he was a lobbyist for Verizon.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fines don't have to be toothless.
It depends on the perspective. Imagine an FCC shopping page for businesses that says something like: "Gain ability to sell customer location data for a year: $10,000,000" "Fine" is a euphemism for market price. If the profits outweigh the fines and the poor PR can be controlled in a timely manner, then they'll do it every time.
Then you just increase the fines. That’s so much more trivial than throwing people into an already overcrowded prison system and destroying their life.
Re: Carrier sales of phone-location data is illegal, FCC plans punishment
#80Biggest industry affected is the banks. They’ll ping your phone location if you make out of area purchases as a part of fraud detection. If your bank doesn’t require travel notices, they are probably pulling mobile location. Some don’t, I know chase uses mobile app to determine location.
The saddest thing about this is that my bank no longer requires notification for international travel, but still does for travel within the US. I've had my card shut off for fraud a few times while traveling in the US. Once when I had almost no gas and was outside of cell service, thanks for that.
This is presumably due to all transactions outside of the US requiring chip, but those in the US only requiring swipe.