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iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by reuben_scratton »

Shebanator wrote: post #55

As someone who worked on Google Play Music for many years, I'd like to point out that a lot of the UX criticisms here are really just personal preferences, and those preferences are based in very large part on the way you listen to music. Some people are "lean back" listeners who just want to put on a radio station of music they like and not fiddle with it. Others are expert curators who have tens of thousands of tra…

Good points. It may be worth allowing power users to choose which one of those archetypes they are via some advanced option somewhere, and that option controls which flavour of UI you get.

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Post by dave5104 »

ringzero wrote: post #9

Apple Music, and particularly iTunes Match, are the opposite of "just works". I wanted to switch back from Spotify, but I found that Match had made a complete mess of my library. Half of my album art gone. Albums were striped with some tracks that were replaced with the iTunes store versions, and some left as my uploaded MP3 V0 versions (most obvious because, even with Sound Check on, the volume levels between each t…

Are you referring to the standalone $25/year iTunes Match subscription?

As an alternate data point, I've subscribed to that service for years now (no Apple Music streaming) and have not had any major problems. Lots of custom music tracks as well, which Match has always respected and synced properly across my iDevices.

The only problem I had when first signing up years back was that one of my songs was replaced with the wrong song--but that bad match has since been fixed.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by blobs »

Because the UX suffers from UI design that is driven by marketing. UI design should be driven by a passion to create the best UX, but that's almost impossible in this $$$ world..

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Post by chungus_khan »

samstevens wrote: post #26
dangus wrote: post #14

> Except that I already pay for Apple Music, I don’t use these tabs, and I’m considering leaving Apple Music for Spotify Stop ranting and do it. Vote with your wallet. Your $10 tells Apple that everything is fine. I don’t subscribe to any music, personally. I use the Music app with Apple Music disabled (Settings > Music > Show Apple Music (Off)).

If you disable Apple Music, what happens to the tabs? Do you only have Library and Search? And $10 for unlimited music ($5 because I'm a student) is unbeatable. I just wish the app was better.

I wouldn't say unbeatable by any stretch, considering that's pretty much the standard price for that.

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Post by ulfw »

dangus wrote: post #18
poulsbohemian wrote: post #6

He's completely right about Apple Music and it's been bad since long before iOS 13. The navigation is incredibly difficult to understand. I get very frustrated about why I have to both tell Apple I love something and put it in my library before their algorithms are smart enough to figure out that maybe I like that band / song and they should find related music. The Spotify discovery algorithms are better in every way…

That doesn’t make sense, the cash back could just be cash. It doesn’t make those services magically free.

Exactly. You can use CASH back for any further credit card purchase, including a Spotify subscription for that matter. Wouldn't call Spotify "free" though.

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Post by hadrien01 »

barrowclift wrote: post #34

While I agree iOS 13’s Music.app is pretty shoddy in many respects, there’s plenty of alternatives other than Spotify that might better fit their requirements. (Marvis Pro, Soor, etc.) I consolidate the biggest players yearly in a review, which might be helpful for the author’s search: https://barrowclift.me/post/second-annual-ios-music-player-c...

Your page is amazing! I love that you made small videos for all players, it really helps to see how the app works

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by Someone1234 »

Shebanator wrote: post #55

As someone who worked on Google Play Music for many years, I'd like to point out that a lot of the UX criticisms here are really just personal preferences, and those preferences are based in very large part on the way you listen to music. Some people are "lean back" listeners who just want to put on a radio station of music they like and not fiddle with it. Others are expert curators who have tens of thousands of tra…

What surprises me most about your post is that someone actually worked on Google Play Music for multiple years. Doing what?

From what I could see, it shipped, then immediately turned into abandoned-ware which it still is today (in spite of being "replaced" by YouTube Music which is also abandoned-ware almost from its release).

I actually still pay for GPM (for Ad-Free YouTube) but also pay for Amazon's Unlimited because Amazon's Music offering actually consistently works well and makes music discovery pleasant. Or to phase another way, I actually pay money to avoid using GPM or YT Music which I could use for "free." They're that terrible.

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Post by Xavdidtheshadow »

DavideNL wrote: post #42

I have both Apple Music and Spotify, and i also dislike Apple's Music app; First, it deleted ALL my playlists on a random day for no apparent reason, and i couldn't restore them from backups because apparently the playlists are stored in the cloud or whatever and not in a local file. Also, after converting my personal library to "iCloud", Apple replaced all my specific versions of songs with crappy alternative versio…

Spotify has better discovery and recommendations, that's for sure.

The killer feature for me is that Apple Music makes it seamless to add local mp3s into my library (accessible from anywhere). Spotify has this functionality, but you have to sync your phone on the same network as your computer and leave the app(s) open and go through a whole song-and-dance.

On AM, I just click "Add to iCloud" in iTunes and suddenly that track is available to stream from any device I own. The seamless integration is really a killer feature.

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Post by efrafa »

What drives me crazy is that at some point music app stopped recognizing my artworks in interpret view. They all have generic icons despite I have them all filled out in iTunes :(

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Post by balls187 »

rbinv wrote: post #46
balls187 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is really annoying, but I bet it's not spotify per-se, but the music's copyright owners wishes.

It's a good thing those wishes can't delete MP3s.

In many ways I agree with you.

As you have paid for a license to listen to that music in that specific format, that should be 100% irrevocable.

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