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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by baddox »

redleader55 wrote: post #46
maxwin wrote: post #34

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I don't understand why whenever there is a discussion about aging research, people always bring out the problem of us living forever or till the end of the universe. I mean how about just double or triple our lifespan which is nothing wrong and we still have no idea how to do that. I think maybe the reason why so many people is against it is because of religion.

There's a very famous series of books by Isaac Asimov that deals with this problem - The Robots. Basically once humans are able to increase their life span, they become reluctant to take any risks and the become stuck in their own "immortality". It's no different than what the GP says. Weather it's until the end of the universe or just a few hundred years, we still become more risk adverse and less capable of change.

Technology can increase our lifespans and it can also reduce the risk of whatever we’re most worried about. People already use technology to drastically reduce the risk of activities that are desirable for various reasons. Obvious examples include prophylactics for sexual activity and seat belts for automobiles.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by steve1977 »

silly_rabbit wrote: post #61

Personally it scares me that this can affect people so young. Heart problems are no joke - if people just take care of themselves and remember to take their pills a lot of lives could be saved.

71 is not so young... it's about 10 years below average for men.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by mprev »

Iv wrote: post #44
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

Speak for yourself. I want to live for as long as I have even brief moments of lucidity. I don't believe in an afterlife, I intend to savor everything I am receiving. One of my biggest fear is that people fail to appreciate that I value more existence than the absence of suffering and may take a very bad decision for me at one point.

I’ll assume you haven’t been close to people in the last stages of some of the crueller diseases such as MND/ALS.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by alpaca128 »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #62
chispamed wrote: post #42

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Last year med student here, sudden cardiac arrest commonly occur in young people. Apart from infectious myocarditis which you might notice as fatigue and reduced performance after you’ve suffered a respiratory infection, hypertrophic myocardiopathy and especially hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy is often hereditary and can be mortal without showing prior symptoms. That’s why after a patient’s death you usually…

I'm adopted. Can I find out if I'm at risk from a DNA mapping service like 23andme?

> it can be detected via ultrasound and treated pharmacologically or interventionally

To me that sounds like a more reliable way to find out.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by silly_rabbit »

steve1977 wrote: post #72
silly_rabbit wrote: post #61

Personally it scares me that this can affect people so young. Heart problems are no joke - if people just take care of themselves and remember to take their pills a lot of lives could be saved.

71 is not so young... it's about 10 years below average for men.

Oh i guess i meant to respond to the general statement in the thread that heart attack can strike at any age. Try as hard as you can to do your best every day because no one knows how long they have. And stay in touch with family!

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by anigbrowl »

xvector wrote: post #25
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

Have you noticed that the things that go on forever in media (soap operas, comic franchises) tend to become zombie-like and be consumed mindlessly rather than having any cultural value? In many respect, death is what makes life so interesting.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by xvector »

codetrotter wrote: post #37
maxwin wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why whenever there is a discussion about aging research, people always bring out the problem of us living forever or till the end of the universe. I mean how about just double or triple our lifespan which is nothing wrong and we still have no idea how to do that. I think maybe the reason why so many people is against it is because of religion.

Double or triple would be fine. I am not religious. The person that I am responding to explicitly said he wanted for life to extend to the end of the universe, so that’s why I am responding with my thoughts about exactly that.

If someone wants to live until the heat death, it’s their prerogative.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by xvector »

anigbrowl wrote: post #76
xvector wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

Have you noticed that the things that go on forever in media (soap operas, comic franchises) tend to become zombie-like and be consumed mindlessly rather than having any cultural value? In many respect, death is what makes life so interesting.

Though I disagree with your premise I’d gladly take a longer life for a more boring one. Life is already a monotonous routine for most. Dying at our own will would let us live to experience anything we want to experience.

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Post by narrator »

chrissnell wrote: post #18
c3534l wrote: post #11

I've heard a few stories where a person seemed to suddenly acknowledge that they were about to die. Granted, my grandmother repeatedly claimed she was going to die that night and the one time it was true the family lore became that she somehow knew. But to stop what you're doing like that, I wonder what it is they're actually feeling in the moment. Did he know he was going to die? Did he just feel dizzy? What do peop…

I can’t speak for others but I had appendicitis about 10 years ago and ended up spending almost 8 hours in the ER waiting room suffering immensely. I distinctly remember towards the latter half of my wait that I began to feel a strange sensation of impending doom. I can’t describe it exactly but I feared that I might actually die if I wasn’t called back soon. I later heard that this sensation is supposedly one of the…

Feelings of impending doom are also a symptom of adenosine injection. [1] Interestingly, caffeine is an adenosine receptor antagonist.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine#Side_effects

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