I guess we won't be seeing a RIM, Microsoft merger any time soon then.
1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is Symbian really that bad or is it a case of not cool/new?
Symbian has not been doing well, and their fans won't support it forever. Prominent Symbian enthusiasts (Symbian-Guru) on giving up the platform: (engadget summary) http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/symbian-guru-shuts-down-s... (same story summarized by TC) http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/01/self-declared-longtime-noki...
Those articles point more towards Nokia's support. I am more curious if there is something wrong with the actual OS.
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#73Let's see 1. Hire someone from Microsoft to run the company 2. He says "our platform is burning, we have to do something drastic" which most people interpret as "prepare to come up with a strategy and fight like hell to win". 3. Guess what, he already had something in mind! It was "throw out our current reasonably successful development efforts and become a licensee of Microsoft's failed platform instead". And piss o…
reasonably successful? Losing 40%points in market share is success? I am of course talking about the full Symbian time line not just currently
I don't follow the exact numbers, but my impression was that there were a hell of a lot of Nokia phones running Nokia OSes sold in world.
Do you have a source handy? It would be interesting to see how Nokia's market penetration (however declining it may be) compared to Microsoft's.
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#74Does this remind anyone else of SGI? - Total domination of their own field - Resting on laurels while others snatch the market from under them - Panic - Get a CEO from Microsoft - CEO quickly decides that the O/S developed in house is not worth maintaining. And that the right O/S is no other than Microsoft's offering - Company continues dive to irrelevance, albeit at a much faster rate than before Well, the last one…
Yeah I was reminded of OpenGL.
Haha, at least Nokia isn't claiming that they and Microsoft are going to develop technology "jointly".
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the move to WP7 may well be a savvy one So was ObjectShare's move to Java. That's not the issue. The issue is management being so out of touch with the employees. It's like a car with a loose steering linkage. Lots of things can go wrong, but a mechanism by which you'd even feel those things is also compromised.
They know exactly what they are doing. They are "knifing the baby". Some employees will suffer, but it is for the greater good. If the company fails (look at Nortel), then everyone suffers.
Let's say you are reading a historical account of a woman knifing her baby to save something else of value. As you are reading, you come to realize that the mother was panicked and not thinking clearly, because you realize there was another way.
I've read the same script before. The way this move was presented to the employees had bad results. I doubt the bad parts were really necessary.
It's a complicated situation. I doubt there was a binary choice whether or not to knife the baby.
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
"for fear of arrest" Whether you agree with the decision or not, nothing about it sounds in the least bit criminal.
An executive switches from company M to competitor N then abruptly throws much of N's development investment in the trash and signs a deal to license all of it from M instead, it smells funny. I'm not saying anything actually is wrong, I don't know enough about it to care. But what I do see is Nokia being a big employer and part of national pride for Finland. This will likely become an issue in politics there. They'd…
nokia is a private company and is answerable to only its shareholders...there might be a backlash in Finland but any company that has to take or does take business decisions based on political/nationalistic considerations will find it hard to be competitive in the global economy
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#77Does this remind anyone else of SGI? - Total domination of their own field - Resting on laurels while others snatch the market from under them - Panic - Get a CEO from Microsoft - CEO quickly decides that the O/S developed in house is not worth maintaining. And that the right O/S is no other than Microsoft's offering - Company continues dive to irrelevance, albeit at a much faster rate than before Well, the last one…
yep, it is almost and exact match. Don't forget who bought the patents after SGI went http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/01/16/sgi_transfers_3d_gra...
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#78Does this remind anyone else of SGI? - Total domination of their own field - Resting on laurels while others snatch the market from under them - Panic - Get a CEO from Microsoft - CEO quickly decides that the O/S developed in house is not worth maintaining. And that the right O/S is no other than Microsoft's offering - Company continues dive to irrelevance, albeit at a much faster rate than before Well, the last one…
Yeah I was reminded of OpenGL. Haha, at least Nokia isn't claiming that they and Microsoft are going to develop technology "jointly".
They are (claiming so).
In the press conferences, they stressed that they're going to contribute to WP7 ecosystem (by bringing OVI maps, and their expertise with developing for range hw range, or something along those lines).
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#79The end of the last ten years of Nokia's downhill: a quiet disappearance into a puff of irrelevance.
Re: 1000+ Nokia workers have walked out in protest (in English via Google Translate)
#80Does this remind anyone else of SGI? - Total domination of their own field - Resting on laurels while others snatch the market from under them - Panic - Get a CEO from Microsoft - CEO quickly decides that the O/S developed in house is not worth maintaining. And that the right O/S is no other than Microsoft's offering - Company continues dive to irrelevance, albeit at a much faster rate than before Well, the last one…
Don't forget Palm too, but they eventually recovered with WebOS, and HP eventually bought them.