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Recover HD Using a Magnet

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Re: Recover HD Using a Magnet

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Isn't it inverse square?

No. Magnetic fields fall off as 1/d when d is small compared to the size of the magnet, progressing to 1/d^3 when d is large compared to the magnet. (E.g. weird edge case-- it's inversely proportional to distance from an infinitely long wire). Electromagnetic radiation from point sources falls off as 1/d^2.

Thanks a lot, both of you, learned something!

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My story: In 1996 or 97, a friend brought me his Compaq Deskpro, the SCSI HDD had stopped working. No sound at all, dead. Tried everything, checked voltages, reconnected cables trying to clear any oxidation. Wouldn't spin at all. Well, called it a night. Next day, decided to take it out of the chassis for a last test, connected outside. Not only it spun, it worked fine!!! WTH???? Well, into the chassis it went. Nothi…

Perhaps a defect in a cable or connector such as a broken wire or a dry solder joint? These often cause problems that mysteriously appear or disappear as the cable is moved and the changing forces on the defect make and break the connection.

Nope, I tried everything, twisted the cables, etc. I even changed from power connector to another and changed SCSI cable. Outside it worked, inside didn't. Working perfectly outside, as soon it got close to the metal of the chassis it spun down, and as it got away from the metal it spun up.

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My anecdote: Around 1993 I had a Commodore Amiga with an A590 external hard drive. A big enclosure that could be connected to the expansion port on the left of an Amiga 500, containing a very precious 20MB hard disk. One day, it stopped working. I tried everything but I couldn’t get it to work. A friend offered to take a look at it so I put it in my backpack and took the train to my friend. When connected to his A500…

This reminds me of my first pc, an Amstrad with a whooping 20Mb drive and 5.25 diskette bay. I had so much software on that machine, 20 megabites seemed more than enough at the time. I was a kid at the time and was getting all kinda of shareware games and eventually a virus completely distroyed the harddrive. Some expert did a low level formatting that took overnight and some but to no avail, the virus’s damage couldn’t be undone.

Fun fact: that amstard pc had a pair of AA batteries to keep the cmos powered up and they fit right on top of the box, right where the monitor fit snugly.

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I had numerous HDs fail with the clicky noise when powered up. I was never able to recover any of them. Is it possible nowadays to fix these without replacing the drive controller? I remember this clicky problem forever destroyed my trust in harddrives. Are hard drives any better these days??

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This a fantastic webpage.

Simple and straight to the point ... although some navigation would be helpful to see, you know, the rest of the website.

TBF from the ~luigi part of the url you can tell that it's probably one of those "web sites" allotted to each user on a university server or something similar, eg. go to http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ for his homepage.

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Really? He doesn't close the tags.

That's only a problem for XHTML. HTML5 implicitly closes the previous tag when you open the next one; thus, a inside a is an implicit , if you will.

Why does VS Code auto add the closing

tag when you open them then? It doesn’t do it for, say, . Bug?

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I have fixed a ton of drives, in general. Board replacements, swapping platters, head swaps, etc. Some takeaways: I started doing this under tupperware, and that worked. I built a "cleanroom" out of a new sandblasting cabinet, and that worked better. Later i built a laminar flow bench out of a cheap kobalt tool-box and some plexiglass, and that was better still. Swapping the control boards works on some makes (wd), m…

Do you (or anyone else) have ideas for what to do with - a MyBook that isn't recognized anymore? I've figured out there's probably some encryption in the casing because when I disassemble it and connect it directly it shows up as unformatted or something. - an ssd which seems even more dead. Personally I've gotten back erased data (photorec) and data from at least 2 other disks (tilting the disk or freezing the disk)…

Have you tried recovering the partition data with testdisk? It may just have lost the formatting. SSD's are generally accepted as impossible to recover, in my experience..

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My anecdote: Around 1993 I had a Commodore Amiga with an A590 external hard drive. A big enclosure that could be connected to the expansion port on the left of an Amiga 500, containing a very precious 20MB hard disk. One day, it stopped working. I tried everything but I couldn’t get it to work. A friend offered to take a look at it so I put it in my backpack and took the train to my friend. When connected to his A500…

FWIW the failure mode (which was also common in drives for the SPARCStation at the time) was called "stiction." That occurred when the drive parked the heads, after power down, into the landing zone on the platter. At Sun we took apart a number of failed drives (which could also be recovered sometimes by giving them a sharp twist) and hunted for the root cause. The answer was that over some time the drive heads becam…

An IBM tech told me how they sometimes resuscitated drives that wouldn't come up after power cycling. They would spin the drive on the floor for a few seconds and then quickly hooked it back up before the platters stopped moving.

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You know what is sad about a small business (kjmagnetics.com) that you linked to? They are exactly what will be killed off by Amazon. The small and knowledgeable specialty store very similar as I am sure many of us remembered happened to 'Stereo Stores' once the big boxes stores came along (or hardware stores). Nothing new about this of course just that with Amazon it's greatly accelerated.

Amazon is 8 years older than K&J Magnetics...but sure

What does that have to do with the point that I am making? Did I make say it started before Amazon?
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