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Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #43

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More then just people in the US use iPhones?

Outside the US the iPhone is not a common choice. It does exist, but most people don't have one. This makes Apple's social lock-in markedly less effective.

I don't think most people have iPhones in the US.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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When did carriers ever get anything tech based right? In fact to expect them is wrong as their business model is very different to a tech company. They are beneficiaries of law-bound limited duopolies or oligopolies. In most countries the only audience they care for are the regulators, and not consumers or their security and safety. Regulatory capture is a wonderful thing for these companies and not for consumers.

This hits home for me right now. I'm currently in the midst of fighting Frontier (bonded DSL 12/1) and frequent disconnects every 2-3 min. They're the only terrestrial ISP available at my home and the DSLAM has been oversold for two years per a tech lead. They have 0 incentive to upgrade the infrastructure here. The area I live in isn't even very rural, and it's one of the fastest growing towns in the Seattle area. N…

In the same situation with CenturyLink. Sounds like I'm more rural but the DSLAM has been here for over ten years and AFAICT has never been upgraded.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Such as.... email?

E-mail doesn't have end-to-end encryption either. PGP doesn't count.

Why doesn't pgp/gpg not count? Because it's too difficult to set up? Do you really trust an encryption with automatically generated, non-exchangeable keys?

That said hardly anybody I know still uses e-mail for private communication.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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You can’t get promoted at Google by maintaining an existing product. Only building a new one. (I’ve heard that over and over from friends that work/worked at google). Yes, this is antidotal...

I have seen plenty of people that work on existing products like Chrome, Gmail, etc. get promoted. I also have witnessed people successfully going from L4->L5 as SWEs without launches. I had to see to believe it, and I have seen it. That said, Google is a GIANT company, and other people might have different experiences. Disclosure: I work at Google.

It's probably just not as fast as being able to hop diagonally instead of vertically

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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When did carriers ever get anything tech based right? In fact to expect them is wrong as their business model is very different to a tech company. They are beneficiaries of law-bound limited duopolies or oligopolies. In most countries the only audience they care for are the regulators, and not consumers or their security and safety. Regulatory capture is a wonderful thing for these companies and not for consumers.

I contracted for a telecom industry company (not a carrier, but a kind of service provider to carriers), and can confirm that pretty much the only reason they survived was regulatory capture. The company's core competency was responding to government RFPs and doing the necessary lobbying to get the contracts. It was quite eye-opening. They ended up with a big investment from a private equity firm which had a taste for cash cows.

On the plus side, everyone "worked" from home on Fridays.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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... he said, while his comment posted correctly, in the moment he wanted, because the tech behind the posting ability was Right.

> because the tech behind the posting ability was Right. Yep - TCP can paper over a lot of incompetence.

Not just TCP, but the ability to throw (tax) money at problems.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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And of course, RCS is not even end-to-end-encrypted so there is no reason whatsoever to use it over SMS or any other messaging platform. I hope we'll see a good and federated instant-messaging platform that respects privacy and is easy to adopt.

I'm wondering why you think that would happen. Like, really, why do you expect that? The goverment in Germany is fighting tooth and nail to keep Telegram and Signal from having actual end-to-end-encryption, trying to ensure that the government has some kind of side channel that makes it possible for them to decrypt everything in case of federal investigations. So I'd love that but what is your reason to believe in ac…

It's technically possible, which makes a good implementation difficult to stop. Look at cryptocurrencies for an example of the struggle governments have to control such things.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

I’m paying the equivalent of $40 p/m for 600mbit download and 100mbit upload in Europe. I don’t think it’s even the best deal I could be getting.

In Switzerland you can get 10Gbps down/1 Gbps up for $50 and you get an Apple TV, a TV subscription and a landline phone number.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #7
post #4

And of course, RCS is not even end-to-end-encrypted so there is no reason whatsoever to use it over SMS or any other messaging platform. I hope we'll see a good and federated instant-messaging platform that respects privacy and is easy to adopt.

Well, it's still an easier way to share higher resolution images and videos with other non-technical users.

Most non technical people I know can send emails.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #51

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Gigabit is not important, remember when you could finally buy a 10MW electrical feed for your home and how much it improved your quality of life... Right that didn't happen because it is not important at all. Running 100W to homes means people can have electric light, 1kW means they can have motorised appliances, and 10kW makes cooking and heating practical... But 10MW? You had no need for it, so it didn't happen. Li…

Receiving two 4K streams is ~50mbps. This is a pretty common modern use case for home internet. At 1000mbps downloading any file takes roughly the same time, regardless of size. Offsite storage becomes practical for multimedia files. Not every home benefits from 1000mbps, but it’s very possible to be a home that does. I don’t have a lot of data stored on disks in my home, because I know I can always download it quick…

Also most people in the west don't worry about overloading their home's electrical supply by connecting too many devices. That is equivalent to a gigabit connection.

A 100Mbit connection would be equivent to maybe a 4kW home supply in a temperate climate - probably enough for the average user but only just you'd still have to watch your usage.

Additionally the real benefit to FTTH is not bandwidth but ping which is noticeable. And no sane operator is installing FTTH with sub-gigabit capacity because it's a complete waste of time and money.

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