Firefox’s Fight for the Future of the Web

Post by saagarjha » Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

sharpneli wrote: post #19

radarsat1 wrote: post #18

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How is it technically enforced though, I am curious. I mean, if I wrote an application that downloaded text files and rendered the text to the screen, I am sure that would be possible. If I wanted to add images to draw next to the text I am sure it is feasible. So how can one technically prohibit doing that? Implementation-wise, how is a web browser really that different from e.g. a video game? Or is it only policy-e…

One cannot have writeable executable memory on iOS (apple can, we cannot). Thus one cannot make a JIT compiler for js and thus pages are slow. Game engines such as Unity use il2cpp to go from the C# stuff into C++ that can be statically compiled as running the C# as bytecode would be too slow without a jitter.

Post by fwn » Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #36

fwn wrote: post #26

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Right now my parent is getting downvoted but I think that there's a great truth in this comment: A lack of focus generally hurts an organizations legitimacy in the eyes of it's donors. Increasing the quality of a countries national elections isn't a goal I'd immediately assume to be part of Mozillas mission, so I'd be disappointed about such a project. They could go the more transparent route and create a second orga…

I've heard that you can't even donate any money for Firefox. All donated money are going to other projects.

Post by saagarjha » Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 1:18 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #30

radarsat1 wrote: post #21

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Ah, so it is all about the javascript engine? Ok I can see how that might put up some major technical barriers, but still it should be technically feasible to have the firefox rendering engine make use of the iOS javascript engine, no? Maybe it's not worth the effort of course. I am just trying to get a feel for what the barriers are.

I think that iOS JS engine is tied to WebView and it would be hard to re-use it with other rendering engine.

Post by danilocesar » Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 1:20 PM UTC

lllr_finger wrote: post #59

On a free and open platform like OpenBSD, Firefox isn't even really an option due to performance issues. More than anything else, being forced to use Chromium for a decent browsing experience turned me away from using OpenBSD on a daily driver laptop.

Post by saagarjha » Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 1:27 PM UTC

jillesvangurp wrote: post #50

edpichler wrote: post #24

Mozilla really has a big challenge. It is hard to compete with such powerful companies, creating a sustainable business with their mission without succumbing to ads or stopping to protect user privacy. It looks like an unfair game. I like the Brave business model. I wish to have the same with Firefox.

Too bad they built Brave on Chromium instead of Firefox. Which of course given that the company is run by Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich is a bit of a shame. Firefox is showing that they are more than technically competent to keep up with Chromium and deliver great performance and functionality. With the work they are doing rewriting Firefox component by component in Rust, Google will have their work cut out keeping…