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Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by Havoc »

slenk wrote: post #54
Havoc wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>about what you could get on a netbook in 2012 and on a modern day cell phone. Spinning up a cloud VM with 4GB for a year is a bit more than beer money though. Reminds me of installing gitlab. Requirement 8GB...for a basic install. After a bunch of crashes (on a 8gb VM) I went with vanilla git.

4gb from linode is $20/month. Not bad if you can actually get use. If you want to just test it, why not use a VritualBox VM or similar?

Without getting all SJW on you I think it's important to highlight that 20 USD/pm is still quite a lot to most people.

To illustrate:

My employer gives me $150 cloud credits. 20 USD seems like pocket change

Me paying out of pocket...20 that's like 2x netflix but fine whatever.

Me being part of the other 95% of the world...unaffordable.

But really my main objection here is why. To borrow my gitlab example...how does adding a interface on top of core software up requirement from zilch to 8 gb? Like wtf is going on underneath that bonnet. It's not doing the heavy lifting - git is doing that. So for a SINGLE user install...whats that 8GB doing? 8GB worth of UI? It's installing via CLI for gods sake...

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by throwaway9147 »

throwaway9147 wrote: post #48
freedomben wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I'm a lot more benefit-of-the-doubt than you, but I agree completely with what you said. Red Hat is very committed to putting the necessary infrastructure and organization in place around projects before they open source to make sure that the code isn't just available but can actually use community contributions. I don't have any inside info on this, but I wouldn't be surprised if OpenShift 4 is just waiting…

> Red Hat is very committed to putting the necessary infrastructure and organization in place around projects before they open source to make sure that the code isn't just available but can actually use community contributions. OpenShift went from open-source to closed-source. The infrastructure and organization was already in place. > or possibly to be in a stable enough state that the community can contribute. I wo…

ignore my above comment, I've jumped to premature conclusions.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by snug »

Havoc wrote: post #71
slenk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4gb from linode is $20/month. Not bad if you can actually get use. If you want to just test it, why not use a VritualBox VM or similar?

Without getting all SJW on you I think it's important to highlight that 20 USD/pm is still quite a lot to most people. To illustrate: My employer gives me $150 cloud credits. 20 USD seems like pocket change Me paying out of pocket...20 that's like 2x netflix but fine whatever. Me being part of the other 95% of the world...unaffordable. But really my main objection here is why. To borrow my gitlab example...how does a…

So then use docker hub

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by wademealing »

tw04 wrote: post #38
jwildeboer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We happily make money without sacrificing our Open Source/Free Software principles. Does that bother you? (Disclaimer: Red Hatter since almost 15 years. I never doubted for a second that we would open source what we buy. Ansible, 3Scale, CoreOS, we have a long history of sticking to our principles)

I hate to break it to you, you are no longer a red hatter, you are an ibm’er and at the mercy of their board of directors. You’ll remain open source right up until the moment they decide that’s not the best way to utilize their recent acquisition. I hope for all of us that doesn’t happen anytime soon, but IBM acquired Redhat, not the other way around... plenty of sun folks learned that the hard way.

I think that IBM know if they get their hands dirty in Red Hat, they wont have much ROI from their investment.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by thebouv »

throwaway9148 wrote: post #61
throwaway9147 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A competing product (Harbor) is already open-source and part of CNCF. Quay wouldn't have had any future if it was to stay proprietary. Regarding RedHat (or IBM) truly committing to open-source, I'll believe when OpenShift 4.x is open-sourced.

Another great project my org is in the process of migrating to is Kraken. We’re migrating to that from after a bad experience with Harbor.

Curious what your experience was. Been using harbor for a couple months and have no issues. BUT we're not using it in a very heavy environment.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by thebouv »

From the basic installation page:

https://docs.projectquay.io/deploy_quay.html

"For a Project Quay Registry installation (appropriate for non-production purposes), you need one system (physical or virtual machine) that has the following attributes:

    Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL): Obtain the latest Red Hat Enterprise Linux server media from the Downloads page and follow instructions from the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 Installation Guide.

    Valid Red Hat Subscription: Obtain a valid Red Hat Enterprise Linux server subscription.
"

So, is it truly tied to RHEL and a subscription, or is that page just making me FEEL that way?

Annoying either way. :/

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by outside1234 »

wademealing wrote: post #74
tw04 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to break it to you, you are no longer a red hatter, you are an ibm’er and at the mercy of their board of directors. You’ll remain open source right up until the moment they decide that’s not the best way to utilize their recent acquisition. I hope for all of us that doesn’t happen anytime soon, but IBM acquired Redhat, not the other way around... plenty of sun folks learned that the hard way.

I think that IBM know if they get their hands dirty in Red Hat, they wont have much ROI from their investment.

I think you are a little too confident in IBM's management.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by soulofmischief »

freedomben wrote: post #2

Love this. After Red Hat acquired Ansible I thought for sure they would cave on their open source principles, but they didn't . They really believe in open source, and we are all the better as a world for it. Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat but have been a fan decades longer than I've worked there.

Yeah, and Ansible has only gotten better since then. Seems IBM hasn't nuked the company culture yet, either. I've been considering applying to Red Hat, they inspire me a lot with the scale they've managed to achieve. Linux would suck without them... All of my servers and physical machines are Centos/Fedora and once a few pain points are addressed I'm looking forward to switching to Silverblue.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by robszumski »

Havoc wrote: post #71
slenk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4gb from linode is $20/month. Not bad if you can actually get use. If you want to just test it, why not use a VritualBox VM or similar?

Without getting all SJW on you I think it's important to highlight that 20 USD/pm is still quite a lot to most people. To illustrate: My employer gives me $150 cloud credits. 20 USD seems like pocket change Me paying out of pocket...20 that's like 2x netflix but fine whatever. Me being part of the other 95% of the world...unaffordable. But really my main objection here is why. To borrow my gitlab example...how does a…

Because it's more than just UI? To stick with your example, where in OSS git do you get a task runner that executes your test pipeline? Do you think that might use some RAM to coordinate? Yes. Where do you get an audit log exporter in OSS git? Etc.

Re: Red Hat Introduces Open Source Project Quay Container Registry

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Post by johannkokos »

thebouv wrote: post #76

From the basic installation page: https://docs.projectquay.io/deploy_quay.html "For a Project Quay Registry installation (appropriate for non-production purposes), you need one system (physical or virtual machine) that has the following attributes: Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL): Obtain the latest Red Hat Enterprise Linux server media from the Downloads page and follow instructions from the Red Hat Enterprise Linux…

The RHEL version linked is 7.5, not 8.1. They might just forget to update the doc.
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