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Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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I hadn’t ever until recently. Openly hostile and toxic specifically towards me. Not my imagination, co-workers would periodically come up to me and ask me what her problem was with me. There is a company culture that protects bad behavior from the few bad actors. One bad boss was stronger than 40+ great coworkers.

Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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I wish we talked more about being boiled slowly. I quit on the spot when the boss called a meeting of all 30 employees to replace my code with his, while being connected to a projector. But for months, I've believed my coding skills could help me outdo his favourite two and win some freedom. I'm so thankful for the last incident as the wakeup call. The other board members I never met (yes he was CTO) promised he will be kicked out. They removed my two month notice period (minimum for India).

Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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post #16

There are a lot of people over 40 in tech and some of them are ignorant. They try to manage something they don't know or can't fully understand. I think that's one of the reasons.

That ageism is unnecessary here. You could equally say there are a lot of people under 40 and a lot of them are ignorant and do not understand business goals. Experience is a pretty good teacher in a lot of cases and a good manager must handle the balance between their own knowledge limits and learning how to enable their team effectively use their varying skills to deliver results.

How is that ageism? the older you are the more experience one would expect you to have. If you are over 40 and you learned nothing then what did you do? Younger people that have no experience... well that's to be expected.

Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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Based only on anecdotal evidence (and yeah the plural of anecdote is not data) I'd sugges that figure wildy, wildly underestimated. I'm trying to think if I know /anyone/ over 35 who hasn't? Maybe, but I have to think quite hard.

I think all of the jobs I've left since I graduated College 15 years ago were because of managers, except the very first one.

Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they instill fear?

Salami tactics. - Reduce flexibility over time - Every expense needs to be justified a hundred times - delaying approval of vacation days to the point that you take a vacation, and it is still not approved - Adding unnecessary process where none is required - Adding compromised people to the team (limited contract, needs the job desperately, needs a raise for kid's education etc) - Strict butts-on-seats policy - Cons…

I was a manager with an employee who was actively trying to defraud the company with a tool he had developed (claiming he had developed it before being hired) while moonlighting.

I instituted a strict butts-on-seats policy, planned to remove technology , forced process to ensure source control, code review and deployment by other team members, etc.

Being a manager isn’t all glamour. There are many people who are trying to scheme, lie and cheat their way to fortune at your company’s expense, and if the manager lets them.... bad news for the manager.

Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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post #48

Funny how little things change. In their 1999 book "First, Break All the Rules", Gallup laid out their findings from over 1M interviews that: - People join companies for the vision, brand, comp etc...but they leave because of their direct manager - The direct manager determines how long an employee stays and how productive he/she is during their tenure The 2 main parts of the book look at: a) how you attract and reta…

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Re: Half of us have quit our job because of a bad boss (2015)

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salami tactics. - Reduce flexibility over time - Every expense needs to be justified a hundred times - delaying approval of vacation days to the point that you take a vacation, and it is still not approved - Adding unnecessary process where none is required - Adding compromised people to the team (limited contract, needs the job desperately, needs a raise for kid's education etc) - Strict butts-on-seats policy - Cons…

I was a manager with an employee who was actively trying to defraud the company with a tool he had developed (claiming he had developed it before being hired) while moonlighting. I instituted a strict butts-on-seats policy, planned to remove technology , forced process to ensure source control, code review and deployment by other team members, etc. Being a manager isn’t all glamour. There are many people who are tryi…

Well, thats just how things are. If the person is trying to defraud, then that is a serious problem.

We are talking about just normal people, who want freedom and flexibility and haven't done anything wrong.

I understand that you had to do what you had to.

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