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Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by Teichopsia »

johnonolan wrote: post #22
therealmarv wrote: post #9

looks nice. Especially like the membership module and will definitely look more deeply into integration with nuxt.js (wow). One thing I don't like is that the membership api seems deeply integrated with Stripe only. That's okay for a start but in many countries in this world Stripe is not available (for me it's the new PayPal. E.g. I'm based in Cyprus and Stripe will not work here although it's EU) and I would welcom…

This is a first version. We're certainly planning to add more payment options, including decentralised ones

Yes, but when? Stripe has been saying the same thing. They will support more countries, and yet, three years later they have yet to support many countries.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that a country can not be supported magically. What I'm against are these comments that are written with (what I believe to be) the best intentions.

But then it's posted, and the person who read it, years later is left with a bad taste in his/her mouth.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#72

Post by sdan »

mkr-hn wrote: post #65
johnonolan wrote: post #3

Hi HN, John from Ghost here. Thanks for the comments about 3.0 — we spent a lot of late nights on this, and it's a pretty big upgrade for Ghost as a platform (which is now 6 years old). I know the audience here is generally more interested in technical details and reasons for why this took longer than 1 weekend to build. So I'll share a few more relevant details absent from the marketing copy: - The new membership sy…

Do you have any plans to offer a solo professional type plan? ~$350/year and up is quite a lot more than I can justify for what I would use this for. Something like Automattic's Premium plan ($8/month) for a managed blog with a subscription system like this would be an easy sell for me. I understand if that's a hard no. You seem to be aiming at people who are or plan to be big time enough to hire people to help. Gett…

Self host it if you can. I do at https://sdan.xyz/blog and https://sdan.xyz/essays and it works flawlessly regardless of visitors/staff members/etc.

Obviously by paying Ghost to host it for you is a bit pricey since they have to make a profit as well, but the amazing thing is that the whole thing is open sourced for people like us to self host (I wrote a post about how I self host a bunch of stuff including ghost: http://sdan.xyz/sd2)

Re: Ghost 3.0

#73

Post by mkr-hn »

sdan wrote: post #72
mkr-hn wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any plans to offer a solo professional type plan? ~$350/year and up is quite a lot more than I can justify for what I would use this for. Something like Automattic's Premium plan ($8/month) for a managed blog with a subscription system like this would be an easy sell for me. I understand if that's a hard no. You seem to be aiming at people who are or plan to be big time enough to hire people to help. Gett…

Self host it if you can. I do at https://sdan.xyz/blog and https://sdan.xyz/essays and it works flawlessly regardless of visitors/staff members/etc. Obviously by paying Ghost to host it for you is a bit pricey since they have to make a profit as well, but the amazing thing is that the whole thing is open sourced for people like us to self host (I wrote a post about how I self host a bunch of stuff including ghost: ht…

I'd rather pay them to do it. The last time I self-hosted, it was WordPress, and the temptation to tinker was too great and distracted from the actual goal of having a blog.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#74

Post by jamesgeck0 »

eugenekolo wrote: post #49

Ghost is okay. My blog runs Ghost. I've been using Ghost from about when it was first released, v.09 or something. I am now planning on moving towards something more static and simpler. Ghost started as a simpler alternative to WordPress, but slightly more powerful than Hugo/Jekyll/etc. It now seems to just be a WordPress clone written in JS instead of PHP. It's still fine and works well... but, I can't see a reason…

> I will probably be migrating to Jekyll for easier self hosting and hacking.

I was thinking of swapping to Hugo, but Ghost 3.0's static site integrations looks it means that I can just run Ghost on my local machine and upload plan HTML to the server. Seems like the best of both worlds.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#75

Post by jhymn »

mkr-hn wrote: post #73
sdan wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self host it if you can. I do at https://sdan.xyz/blog and https://sdan.xyz/essays and it works flawlessly regardless of visitors/staff members/etc. Obviously by paying Ghost to host it for you is a bit pricey since they have to make a profit as well, but the amazing thing is that the whole thing is open sourced for people like us to self host (I wrote a post about how I self host a bunch of stuff including ghost: ht…

I'd rather pay them to do it. The last time I self-hosted, it was WordPress, and the temptation to tinker was too great and distracted from the actual goal of having a blog.

Then why not Svbtle or Write.as? You have lots of affordable or even free choices.

Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by mkr-hn »

jhymn wrote: post #75
mkr-hn wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather pay them to do it. The last time I self-hosted, it was WordPress, and the temptation to tinker was too great and distracted from the actual goal of having a blog.

Then why not Svbtle or Write.as? You have lots of affordable or even free choices.

The subscription system, as I mentioned upthread. Making a blog is easy. Making a blog with pay gated access to posts and downloads is not. The closest equivalent is Patreon + WordPress with the Patreon plugin. I already mentioned the issue with self-hosted WordPress. Managed solutions cost more than Ghost and provide less.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#78

Post by nemothekid »

nickjj wrote: post #8

Serious question. In the article it writes "all whilst operating as an independent non-profit organisation releasing open source software.". But this is right before talking about generating $5,000,000 in customer revenue and giving away 0% of the business. So when you're a non-profit, what happens with that $5,000,000 of business generated revenue? How much of a salary do you give yourself? Can you even give yoursel…

>what happens with that $5,000,000 of business generated revenue?

You operate it like a normal business and pay competitive salaries? I don't get why people working at non-profit should work for free. $5M/6 years is roughly 7 people making 120k/yr.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#79

Post by tyre »

mkr-hn wrote: post #77
jhymn wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why not Svbtle or Write.as? You have lots of affordable or even free choices.

The subscription system, as I mentioned upthread. Making a blog is easy. Making a blog with pay gated access to posts and downloads is not. The closest equivalent is Patreon + WordPress with the Patreon plugin. I already mentioned the issue with self-hosted WordPress. Managed solutions cost more than Ghost and provide less.

Sounds like a good business opportunity if someone's looking for it.

call it gHosting

Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by sdan »

tyre wrote: post #79
mkr-hn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The subscription system, as I mentioned upthread. Making a blog is easy. Making a blog with pay gated access to posts and downloads is not. The closest equivalent is Patreon + WordPress with the Patreon plugin. I already mentioned the issue with self-hosted WordPress. Managed solutions cost more than Ghost and provide less.

Sounds like a good business opportunity if someone's looking for it. call it gHosting

Sounds like an interesting idea... selling software under the MIT license which the software holder is maintaining...

Looks like I have a weekend project now!

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