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Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by wycy »

everyone wrote: post #62
codeulike wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting that the article suggests that making a phone call would be preferable to ordering online. There's been quite a culture change since then; I'll do anything to avoid having to make a phone call.

Preferences aside, a phone call is much more practical. Via web.. * Ordering could easily fuck up somehow. Eg. Send multiple identical pizzas cus you pressed the button multiple times, cus the 1st time u pressed it nothing happened. I read about this actually happening recently. * You dont get confirmation from a human. * You cant ask questions and get answers from a human. * You could only order what the app allows…

> * Ordering could easily fuck up somehow. Eg. Send multiple identical pizzas cus you pressed the button multiple times, cus the 1st time u pressed it nothing happened. I read about this actually happening recently.

I don't think I've ever had an online order experience any of those problems. On the other hand, I've had countless phone/human interactions that have led to order screwups, usually misspellings of my name/email/phone number despite my spelling it out for the person.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by choppaface »

smacktoward wrote: post #34
segfaultbuserr wrote: post #8

I got a 403 forbidden message, but archive.org works. * https://web.archive.org/web/20140123215657/https://www.pizza... > PizzaNet is Pizza Hut's Electronic Storefront and is brought to you by Pizza Hut® and The Santa Cruz Operation® What, the original SCO, THE Unix company, built the website for Pizza Hut? The original SCO dissolved in 2001, so it must be earlier?

The Web was a huge driver of Unix adoption. Before the Web came along, Unix was on the ropes. The conventional wisdom was that Windows NT would eventually finish it off, owning the server space the way regular Windows owned the desktop. But all the early tools for standing up a Web site were Unix-centric, simply because the Web's roots were in science and academia rather than traditional corporate computing. So when…

But the web-scale demand for SCO Unix never really materialized. Linux took much of the marketshare while SCO went after IBM https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/02/ibm_vs_sco_revives/

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by OJFord »

tgtweak wrote: post #29
p0cc wrote: post #20

This is not strictly Pizza Hut's first website. Pizza Hut's first website was built in 1994 [1]. This webpage has Javascript (1995) [2] running Google Tag Manager (2012) [3]. The article about Pizza Hut's first website [1] provides more context than just the webpage. [1]: https://thehistoryoftheweb.com/postscript/pizzanet/ [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o…

Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-25-fi-31168-...

> Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today.

I expect it was more recently put online from the archives, but retaining its date of authorship (as it should) rather than being originally published online in 1994 and remaining there since.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by SilasX »

codeulike wrote: post #61
tgtweak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-25-fi-31168-...

It's interesting that the article suggests that making a phone call would be preferable to ordering online. There's been quite a culture change since then; I'll do anything to avoid having to make a phone call.

And yet there was a thread recently where numerous commenters rolled their eyes at the need for accessibility for the blind on the web, because “Can’t you just call?”

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188594

For even more irony, Pizza Hut’s and Domino’s pages from the mid-90s are more blind-accessible than the meth-addled versions of today. We’ve somehow regressed.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by thrower123 »

codeulike wrote: post #61
tgtweak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-25-fi-31168-...

It's interesting that the article suggests that making a phone call would be preferable to ordering online. There's been quite a culture change since then; I'll do anything to avoid having to make a phone call.

Ordering pizza might be one of the few things that is better to do over the phone than online. It's far quicker to say "Pickup, a large pizza, half pepperoni, well done", than to fight through the combobox salad of seemingly every pizzeria online ordering system.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by bluedino »

segfaultbuserr wrote: post #8

I got a 403 forbidden message, but archive.org works. * https://web.archive.org/web/20140123215657/https://www.pizza... > PizzaNet is Pizza Hut's Electronic Storefront and is brought to you by Pizza Hut® and The Santa Cruz Operation® What, the original SCO, THE Unix company, built the website for Pizza Hut? The original SCO dissolved in 2001, so it must be earlier?

I'm not 100% sure if it was SCO, but Pizza Hut restaurants ran some flavor of UNIX in the stores in the early 90's.

On our local BBS list, there was one named Pizza Hut and it was just a UNIX login. We'd dial in and try a few passwords then get booted.

One day I was at a restaurant with my parents, and sure enough, there was a terminal behind the counter with that same login prompt! I figure some employee must have leaked the phone number or someone found it wardialing.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

bluedino wrote: post #78
segfaultbuserr wrote: post #8

I got a 403 forbidden message, but archive.org works. * https://web.archive.org/web/20140123215657/https://www.pizza... > PizzaNet is Pizza Hut's Electronic Storefront and is brought to you by Pizza Hut® and The Santa Cruz Operation® What, the original SCO, THE Unix company, built the website for Pizza Hut? The original SCO dissolved in 2001, so it must be earlier?

I'm not 100% sure if it was SCO, but Pizza Hut restaurants ran some flavor of UNIX in the stores in the early 90's. On our local BBS list, there was one named Pizza Hut and it was just a UNIX login. We'd dial in and try a few passwords then get booted. One day I was at a restaurant with my parents, and sure enough, there was a terminal behind the counter with that same login prompt! I figure some employee must have l…

> On our local BBS list, there was one named Pizza Hut and it was just a UNIX login. One day I was at a restaurant with my parents, and sure enough, there was a terminal behind the counter with that same login prompt!

> someone found it wardialing.

Aha! It was the amazing days, you just dial a bunch of numbers in your area, and you get all sorts of exposed mainframes and servers from various organizations on the phone line. It was the origin of the common hacker trope.

Today, computers are ubiquitous, but most of them are embedded devices, IoT, smartphones or PCs, you can never find a mainframe in the wild again, the green-blinking CRT terminals from the 80s and the impression of "hack everything" is long gone,

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by nkrisc »

macintux wrote: post #68

At my university, someone did a demo of what ordering a pizza would look like online, using Pizza Hut's site as an example, sometime in 1994-95. I remember thinking to myself that was a ridiculous idea, because all of the stores would have to be wired up to the Internet, and who would do that? That ignored, of course, the possibility that a central location could take the orders and communicate them to the individual…

Most people don't see the future coming. That's why we're so amazed at the people who do (and they make a killing doing so).

When they revealed the iPad I was in an industrial design class in college and we relentlessly mocked it, sure that it would be a flop.

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