Oh ppl, you don't know what you have until you lose it! I am unfortunately on Windows, and I miss CMD+Tab and CMD+Tilde style of switching so much. It's vastly superior in terms of reducing cognitive load.
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Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not really the same thing, it's a second shortcut for basically the same action. It's really not that good, it's far away from Tab and I don't ever remember that it exists. I remapped it to Option+Tab but it's not good either.
Far away from tab? It’s a single key up, at least on a US Qwerty keyboard. Update: Looking into non-us keyboards, this is way less convenient. Italian keyboards don’t even have a tilde? How do they program?
alt+126 for tilde
alt+123 for { (or ralt+shift+è)
alt+125 for } (or ralt+shift+"+")
...
hence why as a young programmer the best ever present I got from my mother was a US layout keyboard, and never looked back. With AltGr deadkeys I can even write things that are Italian, like "È", but cannot be done on an Italian keyboard (there is no such letter on the keyboard, and one has to rely on the word processing sofware to properly capitalise it if "è" comes after an end of sentence).
Italian keyboards are shit for writing Italian, _and_ for programming.
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#73It's an "old" feature, but I use "hot corners" -> mission control to switch windows: https://simplymac.com/enjoying-hot-corners-on-your-mac/ I usually use cmd-tab when I want to close down windows for the day.
You can press Q while using cmd tab to quit that app entirely without leaving the cmd tab interface, which is a fast way of cleaning up at the end of the day / when project switching.
(apologies if this was _precisely_ what you referring to, but commenting in case you meant you then closed each app individually with cmd q, then returned to the cmd tab interface)
A few other shortcuts for cmd tab: http://osxdaily.com/2009/11/17/secrets-of-the-command-tab-ma...
And on the off chance anyone reading this in Windows is also jonesing for a shortcut for closing lots of apps quickly:
Ctrl alt tab: opens persistent app switcher Ctrl w: closes the current program
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#74I use Witch by ManyTricks for this. I refused to get a mac until someone told me about it — I find switching to a program first and then to the correct window totally insane. Witch is very configurable and pretty performant — once in a while it feels sluggish but generally it’s quite good. Interested to try this too!
That's Apple for you. They should have abandoned the dumb one-menu-for-all-apps idea with the OS X transition, but nope. That would entail learning. Then again, they DID implement Command-Tab app switching from Windows... but managed to screw it up by not restoring the app from a minimized state when you switch to it.
Hide is for apps, Minimize is for windows. You're not derisively ranting while not even knowing what Hide is, are you?
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#75Do people know about CMD+Tilde to switch windows within an app? CMD+Tab to the App and Tilde to the Window? It’s not mentioned in the READMEs description of how macOS tab switching works, so I’m curious if the author knows.
Somewhat related... if you're using a Mac and haven't taken the time to understand the difference between Hide (Cmd-H) and Minimize (Cmd-M) then you're missing out.
Would you care to elaborate? I'm not an expert and minimising has always been this frustrating accidental combination where you have to use the cursor to get the window back up from the dock and command+tab doesn't work anymore.
[0] is the first result on stackoverflow but it still seems unclear to me.
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Somewhat related... if you're using a Mac and haven't taken the time to understand the difference between Hide (Cmd-H) and Minimize (Cmd-M) then you're missing out.
Would you care to elaborate? I'm not an expert and minimising has always been this frustrating accidental combination where you have to use the cursor to get the window back up from the dock and command+tab doesn't work anymore. [0] is the first result on stackoverflow but it still seems unclear to me. [0] https://superuser.com/a/51775
MacOS has a much stronger distinction between applications and windows than MS-Windows does.
The Cmd-Tab switcher deals with apps, not windows. Similarly, Hide (Cmd-H) and Hide Others (Opt-Cmd-H) operate on app(s), while Minimize (Cmd-M) operates on a window.
When an app is Hidden, it will come back into view when you select it using the Cmd-Tab switcher.
The gist is that people who aren't experienced with MacOS overuse Minimize and underuse Hide/HideOthers. And sadly seem prone to being obnoxious in their ignorance on the subject [0]
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#77Do people know about CMD+Tilde to switch windows within an app? CMD+Tab to the App and Tilde to the Window? It’s not mentioned in the READMEs description of how macOS tab switching works, so I’m curious if the author knows.
I use witch and bind it to opt-tab, very happy.
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#78Do people know about CMD+Tilde to switch windows within an app? CMD+Tab to the App and Tilde to the Window? It’s not mentioned in the READMEs description of how macOS tab switching works, so I’m curious if the author knows.
That's not really the same thing, it's a second shortcut for basically the same action. It's really not that good, it's far away from Tab and I don't ever remember that it exists. I remapped it to Option+Tab but it's not good either.
> it's far away from Tab
Wait, it is not Alt+"key above tab" by default regardless of layout (like for example in gnome)?
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#79Do people know about CMD+Tilde to switch windows within an app? CMD+Tab to the App and Tilde to the Window? It’s not mentioned in the READMEs description of how macOS tab switching works, so I’m curious if the author knows.
I didn't, and when I tried it out, it wasn't working for me, so I looked it up and apparently others have had the same issue. [0] The Shortcut was set to cmd+` in system preferences, but it didn't do anything. Manually entering cmd+` as the shortcut fixed it. 0: https://superuser.com/questions/186863/command-backtick-isnt...
cmd+` It's always one of the first things I do on a new install remap to cmd+'. Little bug for international keyboards.
Re: Show HN: Alt-tab-macos – Windows-style alt-tab on macOS
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait until you discover some basic features of KDE or Gnome (especially the former) on Linux then. Using KDE, both MacOS and Windows 10 feel like it's 2009 all over again, by comparison. I just don't understand why MS and Apple don't steal the best stuff, it's literally 'free' as in beer, and so much more important to a good UX compared to the slew of useless features both these commercial vendors keep on piling up..…
MacOS has custom shortcuts for everything.
Where "everything" is a small subset of KDE's capabilities.