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Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by KoftaBob »

paxys wrote: post #61
KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

I would still pick a good leader who isn't necessarily a technical expert over Elon Musk's "AI will become self aware and take over the world" schtick.

I would think Pascal's Wager can be applied to that. If Musk is wrong, being extra careful with AI will just mean slightly slower development. If he's right and we don't take it seriously, humanity is wiped out. Why take the chance?

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by jkaptur »

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

I've conducted technical interviews for approximately 200 students and recent graduates - around 100 each from American and elite Chinese universities.

I've seen absolutely zero evidence for your view that "a generation" of Chinese students has graduated with "weak understanding of the fundamentals" compared to Americans.

I'm happy to discuss further (surely my interviews are imperfect tests and the samples are biased in some ways), but let's ground the discussion in evidence. Where did you get this idea?

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by samsonradu »

GordonS wrote: post #31
yumraj wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days state-sponsored has become a euphemism for Chinese .

It depends on who the boogeyman de jour is. It was North Korea for a while, with every major hack blamed on them, then it was Russia, and now it's China - lo and behold, they get the blame for every major hack. Now, I'm not saying it wasn't China - what I'm saying is that Western governments make it like "the body who cried wolf".

Don't forget about Iran.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by bjornjaja »

KoftaBob wrote: post #71
paxys wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would still pick a good leader who isn't necessarily a technical expert over Elon Musk's "AI will become self aware and take over the world" schtick.

I would think Pascal's Wager can be applied to that. If Musk is wrong, being extra careful with AI will just mean slightly slower development. If he's right and we don't take it seriously, humanity is wiped out. Why take the chance?

AI won’t have to do much— humanity already on course to destroy itself.

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Post by MS90 »

stevefan1999 wrote: post #11
Tronno wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article clearly states China was believed to be responsible.

...what does Chinese gain from these attacks then? International infamy?

Stealing blueprints and other technical data so they can make their own knockoffs of western aircraft, as they have with the J-20 (F-22 knockoff) and J-31 (F-35 knockoff).

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Post by rebuilder »

KoftaBob wrote: post #71
paxys wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would still pick a good leader who isn't necessarily a technical expert over Elon Musk's "AI will become self aware and take over the world" schtick.

I would think Pascal's Wager can be applied to that. If Musk is wrong, being extra careful with AI will just mean slightly slower development. If he's right and we don't take it seriously, humanity is wiped out. Why take the chance?

If you go outside, you might get struck by a car. Why take the chance?

Awareness of a risk isn't very helpful if it doesn't come with an understanding of the odds and the costs and benefits involved.

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Post by swagasaurus-rex »

bobthepanda wrote: post #38
joaomacp wrote: post #7

Out of curiosity: why is China not mentioned in the article's title, when the first sentence states a "Chinese state-sponsored hacking operation"?

"Airbus Suppliers Hit in State-Sponsored Attack" would imply China is 100% known to be the hacking operation, and that China was convicted of doing such a thing in a court. This is not true, and would be grounds for libel. "Airbus Suppliers Possibly Hit in Chinese State-Sponsored Attack" is less attractive as a headline.

Libel against a country?

That's like slandering the ground.

Reminds me of Xerxes, king of Persia had the ocean whipped after a storm destroyed his bridge.

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