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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Android Auto isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'm sure they can feel they can do better. I installed Android Auto in my 4runner a few years back and it definitely improved my 4runner experience, but I'm generally happy with my Tesla setup. I'd say the only thing missing from Tesla is Google Assistant integration. Everything else is meh.

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This might work out ok at low speed. The algorithm is simply "Don't hit anything. Stop if confused."

Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

The freeway control regime is entirely different from a low-speed control regime required to safely maneuver in a parking lot. Where I'd expect strange things to occur would be when a car confuses a baby rolling on the asphalt with a garbage bag being blown in the wind, and runs it over.

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Smart summon is here; hide your young children.

Apparently babies often nap outside in nordic countries (see cafe image): https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21537988 I could imagine smart summon really doing something bad, since it is using tech that just isn't ready.

As a data point that it isn't so shocking, I'm in the US and my father said his parents put him and his siblings out to nap in their unheated porch on winter days as infants. That wasn't some homey, rural childhood -- he was born and raised in Chicago, though it was the late 20s/early 30s.

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Is it a joyous experience when you have to wait 1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive? How about when your consumer grade touch panel dies from heat and vibration?

Imagine describing sitting in a parking lot watching YouTube in your car a "joyous experience".

Have you never found yourself alone in a car waiting for someone / something?

Imagine being this eager to shit on someone else’s pleasure.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Android Auto is very underwhelming. I don't even bother, since it requires you to plug in your phone via USB. After having a wireless charger in the car and at home, I never want to have to mess with a cord again.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Really excited to finally get Spotify integration, that's huge. Also hoping they install WiFi at superchargers so you can watch youtube/Netflix while charging there. Not sure where else I'd use that feature.

My hope is that now that Spotify is available to Americans (where the people who develop the software are) the integration will no longer be total garbage. The Spotify integration in v9 is so non-functional for me that I just use Bluetooth. It seems to have zero ability to retry on network failure, and once it’s failed, it basically doesn’t work again on that trip unless you want to reboot the whole MCU. Another reas…

I'm a little confused; Spotify has been available in the US since 2011.

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> I'd get one if I didn't have crushing doubt about their ability to service their cars. Or stay in business long-term. Are you serious? That false narrative fueled by FUD has been the talking point by short-sellers since 2008 (Only Tesla and Ford survived the 2008 market crash btw). It's now 2019 and you would think people would know any better.

False narrative? The "narrative" is their financial data. The fact that there is so much capital floating around to keep bad businesses afloat doesn't make them good businesses. I'm sure the shady silicon valley dealings are isolated to WeWork, even though Tesla is being sued for similar self-dealing. Good luck!

Netflix

Revenue — $17 billion Gross Profit — $5.8 billion EBITDA — $2 billion Market Cap — $111 billion Debt — $14 billion Enterprise Value — $125 billion

Tesla

Revenue — $25B Gross Profit — $4B EBITDA — $2.33B Market Cap — $39B Debt — $14B Enterprise Value — $54B

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Uber

Revenue — $12 billion Gross Profit — $4 billion EBITDA — negative $7.6 billion Market Cap — $53 billion Debt — $6.2 billion Enterprise Value — $50.5 billion

Tesla

Revenue — $25B Gross Profit — $4B EBITDA — $2.33B Market Cap — $39B Debt — $14B Enterprise Value — $54B

I can go on but hopefully you get the point.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Imagine describing sitting in a parking lot watching YouTube in your car a "joyous experience".

As strange as it is to a pedestrian such as myself, sitting in parking lots with the climate set to your liking, the doors locked, and a media on the screen, seems to be an increasingly popular past-time. I personally don't understand it, but cars selling to this use-case are seemingly more successful than cars that don't, and these parking lot homebodies are popping up more and more.

One place where I can see this as a being useful is to give people something to do while they're waiting for their car to charge.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Is it a joyous experience when you have to wait 1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive? How about when your consumer grade touch panel dies from heat and vibration?

I challenge you to go to the teslamotorsclub.com forums or Reddit and poll ACTUAL users. You will quickly find that this is NOT the majority. I frequent those forums and most users are very satisfied with their cars.

You have to acknowledge that there's some selection bias in a sampling from a forum for a particular car brand though.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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> I'd get one if I didn't have crushing doubt about their ability to service their cars. Or stay in business long-term. Are you serious? That false narrative fueled by FUD has been the talking point by short-sellers since 2008 (Only Tesla and Ford survived the 2008 market crash btw). It's now 2019 and you would think people would know any better.

False narrative? The "narrative" is their financial data. The fact that there is so much capital floating around to keep bad businesses afloat doesn't make them good businesses. I'm sure the shady silicon valley dealings are isolated to WeWork, even though Tesla is being sued for similar self-dealing. Good luck!

Partly I think this is motivated by the law that gives tax breaks to companies that show losses. So then no big surprise that many tech companies show losses, regardless of their corporate health. Amazon is one; they've almost never shown a profit ever, and when they have it has been exceedingly slight (surely an accounting "mistake"). Yet they are still in business over 20 years later, and that success has catapulted multiple individuals into the billionaire range. Shady? Definitely. Too much capital? Clearly not, since Amazon has out-performed any possible influx of capital.

There is clearly some dark art in accounting, but I don't think it's always because the companies are covering up bad business. It might be because they're trying to make as little taxable profit as possible.

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