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Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by onepointsixC »

beerbajay wrote: post #59
onepointsixC wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If ICE are literally Nazi's and immigration deletion centers are literally concentration camps, then why not? After all that would mean that they are effectively the embodiment of evil. You would be a hero. If you actually genuinely believe that then I can't see why you wouldn't. Unless deep down you're self aware that you're using such rhetoric not because it is valid but because you think it supports your political…

> literally concentration camps They're not death camps but they are literally concentration camps.

Except they aren't. No group is being concentrated for being members of religious, political, or ethnic groups. The people in ICE detention facilities are there having been arrested for crossing the border illegally and awaiting a hearing in which a judge reviews their case usually to determine if their refuge claims are valid. By your standard jails and prisons would be concentration camps, which is also ludicrous.

If you want talk about concentration camps then I would direct to the crimes being committed against Uyghur's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by autotune »

sethvargo wrote: post #68
temac wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides the political statement, do you have any technical opinion about an organization such as Chef shipping things that have runtime deps to third parties?

It wasn’t a political statement. I have a few thoughts in general. These aren’t specific to this situation. First, always minimize runtime dependencies. I personally prefer compiled things for this very reason. Second, if you’re going to include a third party dependency, how are you auditing it? There’s an unexplored area around security here too. The Node.js ecosystem has had a series of incidents where popular pack…

What are your thoughts on Golang?

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by sethvargo »

faissaloo wrote: post #73
sethvargo wrote: post #28

Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!

I don't have a question, I just wanted to let you know what you did was extremely based.

Extremely based? I’m not sure I understand your comment.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by codegeek »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #32
codegeek wrote: post #25

"Earlier today, a former Chef employee removed several Ruby Gems, impacting production systems for a number of our customers." So the developer already had left the company but one of his own Open Source code hosted on his personal github was used in production by Chef Customers ? Really ? That is just Wow. I don't have any strong opinions on whether he did the right thing but this absolutely surprises me. Running a…

Remember leftpad?

Yes and even though they are similar but I would still argue that npm hellhole is quite different than a direct github library being used by a company in production.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by sethvargo »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #66
sethvargo wrote: post #28

Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!

Has there been any blowback from other clients/employers since taking the repo offline?

There have been some angry people on Twitter/HN/Reddit, but I would say “no” in general. Most feedback has been “you broke my stuff, but I don’t mind. thank you for standing up”.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by kube-system »

remarkEon wrote: post #45
mcguire wrote: post #17

" Another user pointed out that Chef isn’t the only company to profit from working with ICE. Microsoft has raked in $4.6 million, IBM has received $1.6 million, and CISCO has received about $500,000 through their work with ICE. " Those numbers seem very low. Is this just for one year or one contract?

Does each government agency have to individually enter into a contract with Microsoft et al.? That sounds wildly inefficient and silly. My guess is that this "user" pulled those numbers out of thin air.

The purpose of a contract isn’t to be efficient with paperwork or describe a high-level view of transactions. It’s a document that very granularly describes those transactions.

Any large organization has many people with the authority to spend money, and each one of those transactions will be supported by a contract.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by bobthepanda »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #64
pertsix wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was you, I would not answer any questions, and I would consult a lawyer. edit: Looks like they were public gems, but in general it's always good advice to consult a lawyer before disrupting commercial or public systems.

That would be an insane precedent to send if breaking or removing a FOSS project becomes a crime simply because your project happens to be used in some mission-critical system. Good way of making sure no one ever contributes to FOSS again .

While it’s not a crime, at the very least they might be liable for damages.

To establish criminality or liability intent is often looked at, and this is a pretty clear-cut intent to injure the other party.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Post by bobthepanda »

sethvargo wrote: post #74
faissaloo wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a question, I just wanted to let you know what you did was extremely based.

Extremely based? I’m not sure I understand your comment.

‘Based’ is slang for doing something without caring what other people think, and gained meaning from followers of Lil B, or ‘based god’: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based&amp=tr...
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