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Anyone in this thread familiar with Electronic Warfare? Specifically, the EW arms race between a guided missile's "eyes", and decoy signals created by things that don't want to get hit by said missiles? (Or, better yet, between large-scale MIRV missiles, that don't want their warheads to get hit by interceptor systems, and the sensors on those interceptor counter-missiles. In that case, you'd call these techniques ht…

Yeah, I watched Spider-Man:Far From Home as well. Seriously though, the pilots reported visual sighting as well. Projecting a hologram is one thing, projecting one while flying at 800km/hr is another.

> Yeah, I watched Spider-Man:Far From Home as well.

I haven't; what was in the movie?

> Projecting a hologram is one thing, projecting one while flying at 800km/hr is another.

Like I was saying: short-throw laser projectors (or rather, in this case, long-throw projectors, but same diff, tech-wise.) Have a missile vanguard blow through the airspace first, making the air turbulent and perhaps "doping" it with some dyes so that the vapor-trail blends back into the sky. Then fly out your penaids, have them assume static positions around the diffractive "canvas", and then start throwing emissions at the "canvas." Reorient some lasers a tiny little bit, and now it looks like you've got something glowy accelerating at Mach 6 along your "canvas." But it's not a violation of the laws of physics—it's just light (and RF, and IR, and...)

But my real argument wasn't meant to be a constructive proof about what properties penaids should be able to have. My point was that, given the tech that's cheap enough for any nation on earth to put into each and every counter-missile, if certain nations (ahem) want to retain air supremacy, they're going to want to develop something that can fool that sensor tech. The result would be the EW equivalent of a "deepfake": a decoy that fools cameras better than our eyes, feeding AI more discriminant than our brains. What hope do we humans have of telling such a decoy apart from a real UFO?

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Could this be the Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik

No, for a huge number of reasons - not least of which being timing (the cruise missile is in early development now, and these videos are 5+ years old) performance (cruise missiles can't do what the objects in the video did, even if nuclear powered - nuclear power is more an endurance feature anyways) lack of fallout (unshielded directly cooled reactors produce quite a few interesting isotopes) and location (why would the Russians fly a missile like that anywhere near the US?).

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

> I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. If you don't know what they were then you can't rule out these other things.

That’s a bit like saying if I can’t identify a bird I can’t be sure it’s not an ostrich, even if it’s in a tree and flies away. The things in that list have certain properties which can allow them to be ruled out when trying to identify a UFO. Whether that was possible with the information in this particular case and was done correctly might be up for debate, but it is certainly possible to do so in the general sense.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level? If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

I agree that would have prevented a lot of misunderstandings but Navy operates this way all the time. They prefer a somewhat "blinded" subject.

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I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level? If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

I agree that would have prevented a lot of misunderstandings but Navy operates this way all the time. They prefer a somewhat "blinded" subject.

Or someone just screwed up the human side of it.

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~same topic now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21008930 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21008988 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20997012 older: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828448

NGC as on, Northrop Grumman ? (404) not found@

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I wonder what this will do to the "AREA 51 RAID" planned for September 20th. Weird times we live in.

It will not happen. It's just a meme. 2 people are already arrested, thousands of people are not stupid enough to raid an American military base.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level? If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

Procedure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_to_know
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