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Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

Cyberdog wrote: post #52
amyjess wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a KDE user, this looks really tempting. The only thing I'd be worried about is that using third-party clients is a violation of Discord's TOS, and I'd be terrified of getting banned for using it. Do you know if Discord has a history of banning Ripcord users, or is it something they look the other way on?

I've never heard of them banning anyone for using this or some other unofficial client, no. I'd imagine a more effective approach to urge people to use the official client would be to simply block access from unofficial clients first before they start entirely banning accounts and pissing people off… but you never know, I guess.

They've banned people for using modded clients in abusive ways, i.e. overriding spam/flood controls, which is reasonable. Unfortunately their official statement in response to those incidents was essentially "You can be be banned at any time for using modded or unofficial clients." They haven't actually done that to any legitimate users AFAIK, but their overreacting, user-hostile stance is worrisome, so I can see why amyjess is concerned.

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by chadlavi »

vanderZwan wrote: post #42

Something that got much less attention but deserves it (IMO) is that they have accessible themes for people with color-vision deficiencies. There is a theme for people with tritanopia and one for protanopia & deuteranopia. Having protanopia myself I'm very grateful for any piece of software that takes these issues seriously. For those on Visual Studio Code: the slack themes are also available there, including the col…

They've had these for a while! I have a coworker with protanopia and we've all started using that theme.

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by rolleiflex »

alanbernstein wrote: post #69
rolleiflex wrote: post #66

Human eye’s signal amplification curve is not linear. [1] You can’t convert an existing app to dark mode so much as building a new design for it, or it looks weird. Youtube’s Dark mode is an example of this uncanny valley. Funnily enough, they themselves illustrated the issue with the first image on their post, in how weird the version on the left looks. Besides - what we need isn’t a full dark mode, it’s an app that…

> You can’t convert an existing app to dark mode. How can this possibly be true? Are you trying to say something else, like "just changing colors is not sufficient to create a high quality dark mode"? That is probably why it's a "mode" and not a "theme". This tool looks nice though. This type of threading is much more appropriate for work conversations, in my experience.

Yes, sorry, that was a little hyperbolic, so I edited to correct. I meant sometimes the things that you need to do to make a dark mode is not just changing colours, but also to produce new design work, since not all of the existing design can be converted.

(And thanks — I agree. It saves quite a bit of productivity in our own remote team every day.)

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by whorleater »

makewavesnotwar wrote: post #47

Funny that as Discord releases a light theme, Slack releases a dark theme. But in seriousness, does Slack really have any value proposition over Discord beyond Screen Hero these days? I switched my organization over to Discord based on the ability to create public channels for testers/customers to communicate with my team on the server without any role-based overhead (also because my target market is largely the Twit…

Ignoring the feature set, is data retention policy not a consideration? For us, we paste customer log data for debugging purposes, and Discord's lack of a clear enterprise data retention policy means that we're not assured customer data isn't winding up where it shouldn't be.

Honestly I couldn't care about gifs/emojis/themes/threads/etc, but also the lack of SSO means it's a giant security issue. What if one of your devs loses their password, and you can't mandate 2 factor because Discord sign in is out of your control?

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by cco »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #53
freediver wrote: post #3

Why is this HN front-page worthy?

- Many HN users are programmers or work in other tech jobs. - Many HN users use Slack at this job or have interacted with someone who does. - Many HN users hate how Slack is an Electron app that consumes too many resources for the simple functions it performs. - Many HN users follow app trends, including the fact everything is adding a dark mode lately. These four reasons are why this would make it to the HN front pa…

5th: I've wanted dark mode in slack for a long time and would not have heard about it without this post.

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by balaksakrionon »

Cyberdog wrote: post #35
derefr wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Lowering brightness is basically lowering contrast; some people can’t read black-on-grey so well. A lot easier to read (bright-)white-on-black, while still not getting so much light exposure. (Have you tried reading a book on your phone in bed at night?) 2. The rise of dark-mode popularity seems to coincide with the availability of OLED screens, where black is a very, very dark color (i.e. what your screen looks l…

> The rise of dark-mode popularity seems to coincide with the availability of OLED screens "Dark mode" predates OLEDs by decades. Pretty much up until the first Macs, turning on a computer and getting something other than green, amber, or white text on a black background was an exception. Even then, code editors and terminal emulators on Macs and eventually Windows systems typically allowed for a dark mode, if only a…

Of course dark modes and dark themes have been around for a long time, but the user you are responding to specifically pointed to the 'rise of dark' mode, meaning the recent explosion in popularity

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by ilikehurdles »

makewavesnotwar wrote: post #47

Funny that as Discord releases a light theme, Slack releases a dark theme. But in seriousness, does Slack really have any value proposition over Discord beyond Screen Hero these days? I switched my organization over to Discord based on the ability to create public channels for testers/customers to communicate with my team on the server without any role-based overhead (also because my target market is largely the Twit…

I do not trust Discord on data privacy.

It's not just the target market being the gamer crowd, its focus on promoting gaming content is beyond distracting for a work setting.

Take its font-and-center features:

- The primary page with all the game and stream ads has zero value for productivity.

- Its voice chat is great but not nearly as valuable as a video meeting integration.

- I don't need or want to know what application or game you have open right now or what music you're listening to. I just want to know if you're available right now or if not, when you will be.

Integrations, emphasized. Adding a swath of app integrations was a "wow" factor when Slack first came on the scene, and I've had very little trouble introducing Slack at organizations with minimal IT resources because of this. Setting up and maintaining webhooks is "too much" for a lot of people who can otherwise manage a Slack org.

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by balaksakrionon »

acid303 wrote: post #59
TeMPOraL wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have HN and a terminal open side by side, and I can tell you HN is more painful to look at, simply because it's like shining flashlight into the eyes compared to a black-background terminal.

You should try using dark mode extensions like DarkReader if you aren't already. I have it enabled on most sites and it works almost flawlessly. [0] https://darkreader.org/

I want to try it badly but it goes against most fibers of my being to give a 3rd party extension such crazy permissions:

  Access your data for all websites
  Access browser tabs

Re: Dark Mode for Slack

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Post by pwinnski »

DuskStar wrote: post #19
ShakataGaNai wrote: post #15

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Yes. This please. I so so SO hate the drafts section. Regularly I have DM conversations with people and might have typed out half a message when I need to respond to another channel/DM. But when I go back to the first conversation... it's gone. Because instead of being at the bottom of my list where I expect to see it (like I do the other 99.99999% of the time)... it's up at the top. Don't. Move. Around. The. UI.

Or, if they want to keep the drafts section... Duplicate the channel, don't move it. That way you get the best of both worlds

This is the key. I don't think most people would care about the drafts section if it appeared and disappeared without disrupting the normal way of doing things!
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