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OK and quite right, but how do we actually ensure funding for the stuff that needs it? It seems odd to me that people won't cough up even small amounts to support what F/OSS they rely on, but will pay for closed source stuff.
How many people actually rely on standard? I'm not talking about downloads, I'm talking about active users.
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> Adware is malware This seems like an overreaction. Are HN ads (those links to YC company jobs) malware? According to feross, the ads were just static hardcoded messages. I find it distasteful, but I don't see how it's "malware".
The entire advertising industry is scum. I worked in it for two years and wish I never did. That's a sin I now atone for by discouraging younger developers from making the same mistake, using the harshest language I think dang will permit. It doesn't matter if there is no telemetry (and if this were to be normalized, there would eventually be telemetry. Such are the economic incentives in the ad industry. When it's p…
I’m surprised Feross was the catalyst here. From his Youtube Instant days always struck me as the type who appreciated and championed FOSS. Seems he decided that the F in FOSS might be, erm, “reinterpreted,” much the way the notion of “free” has been by modern web companies.
For more context, in case anyone is wondering what I was trying to communicate amidst the torrent of downvotes. Feross is a meaningful voice in open source. I've admired him for a long time, and still do. He's written some thoughtful posts in the past about FOSS specifically, hence the specificity of my comment (see his post from 2010 here: https://feross.org/stallman-stanford/ ). Reading his justification for the "f…
Consider also the quality of advertising those organizations (newspapers, magazines, etc) submit their readers to in the digital domain. The worst sort. That newspapers printed on paper lack telemetry is not attributable to pure motivations on the part of the publishers. Rather, print newspapers lack telemetry simply because nobody has figured out how to put telemetry in them. Were it's possible, those same organizations eagerly adopt telemetry because of the nature of the economic incentives in the advertising industry.
I haven't really run into any. Has anyone run into some unexpectedly?
It listed opencollective and patreon as possible channels of support. That I didn't mind so much, but then there was a message (repeated countless times in the logs) that the author was looking for a job. That's just spam in my terminal, unacceptable.
Background and heated discussion in the following GitHub issue (since closed without resolution):
Get rid of postinstall message
https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/issues/548
I believe some irate users reported it to NPM, which could have triggered or contributed to the policy decision to ban terminal ads.
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How many people actually rely on standard? I'm not talking about downloads, I'm talking about active users.
I am being thick; what's the relevance of that?
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The entire advertising industry is scum. I worked in it for two years and wish I never did. That's a sin I now atone for by discouraging younger developers from making the same mistake, using the harshest language I think dang will permit. It doesn't matter if there is no telemetry (and if this were to be normalized, there would eventually be telemetry. Such are the economic incentives in the ad industry. When it's p…
But yet, part of the allure of hobby magazines, for instances, are the ads. Ads need not be scummy, and just because some are doesn't mean all are. Ads _can_ be primarily informational without being "scummy" or "sleazy". Sure, yes, most of the ad industry is currently about being manipulative and invasive, but it need not be that way. We, as a society, need to figure out how to stop it from being that way across the…
Specialized magazines (hobbyist, regional, etc) seem to hit the absolute right balance for this. People advertising in them know who they're advertising to, in general, and people picking them up know what they're getting; some interesting content (hopefully) and some ads relevant to their hobby/region.
Online ads have gone way, way, wayyyyy too far in getting into the scummy hyper-profiling, and they're not even selling stuff I'm then interested in! So what's the point? I mean, in practical terms the point is to try and differentiate their profiles of me from other people's profiles of me -- marketing techniques applied to the business of marketing -- but in real terms, who (aside from the companies building these profiles) benefits?
I'm personally holding out hope that the US will adopt a "you own your data and can determine its uses" legal framework, and bring the hammer down on anyone amassing profiles on the populace. Google, Equifax, Facebook, the million anonymous marketing and list-selling firms, all that stuff needs to come under heavy regulation.
While I don't particularly like the idea of stuffing ads into npm logs, I don't have the same visceral negative reaction that many people have in these HN threads on this topic. The overwhelming majority of the people complaining about this are well-paid tech workers writing code for well-funded companies that profit off of open source code without providing any reciprocal value to the open source projects in return.…
While I don't particularly like the idea of stuffing ads into npm logs, I don't have the same visceral negative reaction that many people have in these HN threads on this topic. The overwhelming majority of the people complaining about this are well-paid tech workers writing code for well-funded companies that profit off of open source code without providing any reciprocal value to the open source projects in return.…
I think we have got open source funding all wrong. The thing that makes open source great is that, in parallel, half a million projects are ticking along from which we are learning what is good, what is bad, what is the future of our art. It is education. It is research. We look for 100,000 individual solutions to making rent while FAANG are just sitting there with a quarter trillion plus in cash waiting to benefit f…
That's not so much a solution, but a new problem: how to get FAANG to actually do that?
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OSS is sustainable. I don’t like how tidelift seems to present a partial story. If there some OSS crisis that I’m not aware of? Separately, just because something is an approach doesn’t mean it’s worth talking about.
If there some OSS crisis that I’m not aware of? I think there might be. I'm not involved in OSS circles, and don't really pay attention to the issues much beyond what I see on HN, but recently in a survey I completed for a tech company there were a number of questions asking my opinion on whether OSS is still a sustainable model, and if I believed it would be around 5, 10, 15, 20 years in the future.
You can ask me what I think about inflation but that wouldn't make me an economist, would it?
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> Adware is malware This seems like an overreaction. Are HN ads (those links to YC company jobs) malware? According to feross, the ads were just static hardcoded messages. I find it distasteful, but I don't see how it's "malware".
The entire advertising industry is scum. I worked in it for two years and wish I never did. That's a sin I now atone for by discouraging younger developers from making the same mistake, using the harshest language I think dang will permit. It doesn't matter if there is no telemetry (and if this were to be normalized, there would eventually be telemetry. Such are the economic incentives in the ad industry. When it's p…