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Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by mattdeboard »

flaque wrote: post #58
mattdeboard wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because we're a paid product, we have little incentive to read your thoughts or strip-mine your data. We're in the business of making you feel better; we're not reading your deepest darkest secrets to figure out how to sell you shoes or something. We don't want to know your thoughts. Unless someone explicitly tells us otherwise, we treat them like passwords. I trust you when you say this, and I trust that you are b…

> I do not trust the incentive structures of Silicon Valley to permit you to adhere to this principle. Neither do I! My point is more so that we try to take steps not just to say "hey we don't read your thoughts" but also to align the incentive systems so that 10 years down the line we're at least pointed in the right direction.

My therapist can't read my mind either but I bet someone could craft some laser-targeted ads directly at my nervous system with her notes in aggregate :P

I'm glad you're thinking about this. Good luck!

Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by funwithjustin »

nestorherre wrote: post #59

Got discouraged by the fact that I have to introduce my credit card details to try the app. This is a no no for me and I'm sure that it will be a no no for a lot others.

Literally their first sentence is bolded and calls out the subscription fee.

Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by tomquirk »

flaque wrote: post #74
tomquirk wrote: post #72

Are you hiring? :joy:

Probably not for a bit; but shoot me an email with your info! ejc@quirk.fyi

Awesome! Sorry, I was only semi-serious, because my last name is Quirk and it seemed like a good fit :D

Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by tareqak »

zdrummond wrote: post #27
danenania wrote: post #10

Nice work! This is a great idea and something I've thought should exist since getting interested in CBT a few months back. Before even trying the app, here are some thoughts. - On pricing: $4/mo seems like a difficult price point to build a business around, and it doesn't reflect the value you're offering. People pay hundreds/thousands per month to therapists to improve their mental health. If outcomes from using you…

Offhand, I feel your advice is contrary. You suggest increasing the price because "If outcomes from using your app compare favorably to a therapist, shouldn't your pricing reflect that?", but then the next two points on brand and stigma suggest opening it up to all people who want to feel great. I think you need to choose one. You are either a niche therapy compliment/competitor (price insensitive) or a mental wellbe…

I second your final note: $4/month can be a lot for someone with depression with nothing saved up. If they have insurance that's willing to cover it, then that might be one avenue, but then there are people without insurance. I don't have any suggestions that would be helpful while being sustainable economically.

Regardless, I'm glad that 'flaque are trying to make the world an objectively better place for some, and I wish 'flaque all the best in this endeavor.

One unrelated suggestion that I might have is to have a fixed buyout price for those that don't want to subscribe, but are willing to pay a higher one time price.

Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by RickS »

akeck wrote: post #56

How are you handling operating in states which require a license for conducting therapy?

Not a lawyer, but my guess is that since people are self-reporting into a text capture tool, quirk is no more liable than Microsoft would be if users were to do this into Word.

Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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Post by flaque »

RickS wrote: post #77
akeck wrote: post #56

How are you handling operating in states which require a license for conducting therapy?

Not a lawyer, but my guess is that since people are self-reporting into a text capture tool, quirk is no more liable than Microsoft would be if users were to do this into Word.

Mostly this yeah. We're not talk therapy, we don't claim to connect you with a therapist, and we don't take health insurance.
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