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This reminds me of when I was a little kid, maybe 2nd grade, and our class took a field trip to the police station. We all had our fingerprints taken. At the time, it just seemed like a fun activity to show us a little bit about how police work is done.
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You may not. I don't want my government spying on me. What if I was gay and was seen leaving a gay club? Now what if I ended up in the Kingdom of Saud and that data was shared or leaked?
If you're gay, you should know the risks about going to Saudi Arabia or any place with similar laws and avoid going there. One does not usually "end up" in a different country unless they're kidnapped and at that point the homosexuality laws are really the least of your problems.
Instead of Saudi Arabia, how about the United States 100 years ago? It is not as though there are no more harmless activities for people to participate in that they will suffer for.
A comparatively trivial but important example: how about tracking your employees movements to punish them for talking to other companies? Is that a 'you should know your risks' situation too?
Honestly, I have no problem with a database of public images showing/tracking people's public actions. It used to be in a small town you knew who was good and bad by their actions. With the population explosion, the only way we have a practical means to return to that is with facial recognition databases.
It used to be in a small town that your life was ruined by spurious rumors and salacious gossip.
Sooo... where are all the people against the Chinese on this thread?
A friend's child is in a camp that unfortunately uses them, and "invited me" so that I could send a letter to the child (which is a useful feature). The URL of the child's photo is:
https://.../trained_face/image/...jpg
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"Facial Recognition
When parents upload a photo of their camper, our facial recognition software scans each photo posted by camp and notifies parents when photos of their camper are available. Family members can easily see their camper in action without hunting through the camp’s entire gallery."
> “We have these photos. It makes sense,” Chief Shea said in the interview. ah, yeah, outstanding argument - looking forward to seeing it applied to all other electronic data ever produced, no matter how old they are
He also has a mailing list of all the police officers in his department. Why not make those public? It makes sense.
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why do you think privacy is dead? Where I travel, (digital and otherwise) privacy is quite alive and well. (This is definitely outside of highly populated first-world cities.)
My point is that if corporate surveillance with creepy camera technology and facial recognition is going to be rolled out everywhere (for the real safety benefits) then isn't it better for us all to spread the power out as much as possible rather than it being concentrated in the hands of a few giant entities?
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If you're gay, you should know the risks about going to Saudi Arabia or any place with similar laws and avoid going there. One does not usually "end up" in a different country unless they're kidnapped and at that point the homosexuality laws are really the least of your problems.
Your argument implies that 'it's the gay person's fault for getting caught,' so that tracking organisations have less responsibility for their actions. Instead of Saudi Arabia, how about the United States 100 years ago? It is not as though there are no more harmless activities for people to participate in that they will suffer for. A comparatively trivial but important example: how about tracking your employees movem…
Data getting deleted is a good thing.
This reminds me of when I was a little kid, maybe 2nd grade, and our class took a field trip to the police station. We all had our fingerprints taken. At the time, it just seemed like a fun activity to show us a little bit about how police work is done.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd be ok with that if we also a) make public every time the data is accessed, including who is doing it, and b) require that anybody accessing the data have at least as much data public as they are accessing. I think the worst problems here are around asymmetries. If I secretly have all your data but you don't know that and have none of mine, there's a power imbalance. But if we have equal amounts of data and know w…
Wouldn’t people just obfuscate data access through intermediaries and flooding with junk queries?
