I knew this was the next step for these companies. They don't want to lose millions and the easiest thing to do is change the name. At some point, the public will forget.
Boeing 737 Max ordered by Ryanair undergoes name change
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it appropriate to call this fearmongering when the issues are real (for the 737)?
Yes. I think it is appropriate to call this fearmongering. The planes with the faulty software are grounded and won't be flying until they new software is proven to be safe. The re-certification process will likely be stricter than usually is. Thus, any fear about flying in those planes are unjustified.
I'd contest that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/airline-mechanics-feel-pressure...
Given that the remaining 737 non MAX aircraft should be good in theory, there are very concerning trends still rife in the aviation industry that are cause for concern.
For once, the bean counters need to take a back seat to those actually trying to do their jobs keeping people safe.
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#73Well if I were concerned about safety I wouldn’t fly Ryanair in the first place, I don’t think the repaint was necessary
You wouldn't fly on an airline that has had zero fatalities in its 34 year operating history? Ryanair definitely has had issues (particularly in the early 2000s with pilot fatigue) but there's a lack of basis to suggest they're unsafe.
I won't fly on Ryanair myself, but it has nothing to do with their safety record (which is fair to good), it has to do with the way they treat customers and employees.
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#74Well if I were concerned about safety I wouldn’t fly Ryanair in the first place, I don’t think the repaint was necessary
Wait, what? Ryanair have barely had an accident in 33 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair#Accidents_and_incident...
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#75> Photos have emerged of a repainted 737 Max in Ryanair colours outside Boeing’s manufacturing hub, with the name 737 Max replaced by 737-8200 on the nose. Now I'm worried about boarding any 737
Same here. If this happens, and my company is forcing me to business travel, I'm refusing to travel unless I'm put on an Airbus.
What company makes it hard to pick your flight that you’d need to resort to leverage?
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#76Well if I were concerned about safety I wouldn’t fly Ryanair in the first place, I don’t think the repaint was necessary
Ryanair have a stellar safety reputation.
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#77> Photos have emerged of a repainted 737 Max in Ryanair colours outside Boeing’s manufacturing hub, with the name 737 Max replaced by 737-8200 on the nose. Now I'm worried about boarding any 737
This. And I'm starting to be afraid of ANY Boeing. This company is dead.
Really? I was in a 777 yesterday and felt like I was flying in a well-tested, mostly modern plane built with well-understood technologies. That, and I realized 737s (not Max, obviously) have loud interiors.
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#78Was “NG” originally printed on the previous gen aircraft, but later shifted to just 737-800/737-8? I always thought the MAX name was kind of like ”New” - ie something that would disappear.
The ‘classic’ ones were -300/-400/-500, and the NG were -600/-700/-800/-900. The MAX 8 is a replacement for the -800, and it has been called a 737-8 for a while – their FAA type certificates are 737-7, -8, and -9.
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#79A question: they still have to ground the "whatever re-branded 737 max" until the conclusion of the investigation, right ? This can't be a loophole to avoid the interdiction to fly, isn't it ?
Yes, MAX is a tradename, -8200 is like the model-number and FAA uses that. Still grounded.
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#80Do passengers have a right to refuse to fly on the 737 "max"?
...Yes?
Though I think what you may be actually intending to ask is is the airline bound to provide with a flight to your ticketed destination on another plane if they have to sub-in a MAX because of reasons.
That is a question with a far less straightforward answer; the last time I read terms they reserved the right to swap in hardware as circumstances warrant. You'll want to take it up with the carrier. Which I recommend everyone does; as they only pay attention when sizable customer groups start making a fuss.