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Being Bored Is Good

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Re: Being Bored Is Good

#71
There is definitely too much sensation and information for me these days. When I was a kid and being a natural geek I had so little technical literature in the house that I used to pore over it. I'd read my computer magazines cover to cover until I virtually memorised the whole thing.

These days, I don't even know where to start. It's terrifying! I'm moving to the country soon to get away from the overload.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#73

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> I just don't understand how people can not feel lost if they don't create something that stems from their own selves For a majority of people, their greatest and most satisfying achievement will be their children. Nature doesn’t play around :)

> For a majority of people, their greatest and most satisfying achievement will be their children. This sentiment is grossly nauseating, to me. Having children is not an achievement. It may be satisfying and fulfilling, but it is in no way an "achievement". If your greatest contribution to the world is birthing a child, you have failed as a person.

LOL. I would still call it an achievement, just because of the huge amount of work it takes, in multiple domains be they personal, interpersonal, professional and so on. And for some people, parenthood is the thing that spurs them on to achieve in various ways. But I know what you're getting at - it's not a particularly unique achievement, not especially helpful to the planet (understatement), and so on.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#74
I'm not sure that boredom is the right word for what is being described here. Leisure is what we used to call it, and the sense of boredom seems (to me) to emerge as one possible reaction to unencumbered leisure time. When I am on a hike, my mind can be free, but I am not bored.

Certainly agree with the idea that phones create a strong environment for bored distraction. I've been slowly deleting apps where I find myself pointlessly refreshing/checking, but I haven't made it to the next level of completely disengaging and simply sitting and mentally exploring other forms of leisure.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#75
I'e been programming since the early eighties, and when I was zoned into it, my mom would have to call me 3 times for dinner.

I would tell her I'd be there in two minutes, and to me what felt like two minutes, was really ten in real life.

In those days, this kind of computer time dilation experience was pretty unique, and very few people had access to it.

Now I find it funny to see that all of society seems to be turning into phone zombies.

Although this absorption state is occasionally useful, I've come to dislike it. I feel it takes me away from real life down a rabbit hole.

I much prefer full contact living, and the occasional boredom that comes with it.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#76
post #35

I often have this weird fear that I wont accomplish anything in my life like it is some sort of personal failure. Meanwhile I'm able to write about game ideas, code them, create some characters and story and background, even though it doesn't lead to anything since it's more of a hobby, but I fail to make it into a job. I love to think, create, try to design little things, and honestly that's the best pleasure I have…

Welcome to the wonderful globalised utopia of 2019 in which shared culture has been deliberately destroyed and genuine, wholesome, worthwhile, spiritually nourishing experiences and a sense of community are replaced with empty consumerism and anomie.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For a majority of people, their greatest and most satisfying achievement will be their children. This sentiment is grossly nauseating, to me. Having children is not an achievement. It may be satisfying and fulfilling, but it is in no way an "achievement". If your greatest contribution to the world is birthing a child, you have failed as a person.

Try it. You will fail. It is way harder (to do it right) than anything you can imagine.

Raising children is the quintessential grinding stone in life. You're right, there's nothing quite like it, and each child is a near-constant reminder that you need to be flexible in order to teach and to learn.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#78

There is definitely too much sensation and information for me these days. When I was a kid and being a natural geek I had so little technical literature in the house that I used to pore over it. I'd read my computer magazines cover to cover until I virtually memorised the whole thing. These days, I don't even know where to start. It's terrifying! I'm moving to the country soon to get away from the overload.

It won't help. The information follows you. Maybe the sensation is a little less, though, which may help. Good luck.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

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Has anyone considered that the ability for people to be easily distracted reveals a weakness in themselves? i.e we all wish we were more bored so we could discover our "true" selves. If you're distracted all the time by twitter or bullshit or whatever, you really only have one person to blame: yourself. It would definitely be easier for everyone's self image if we weren't exposed to the parts of ourselves that we fou…

Absolutely. I'll totally admit its my fault. But the fact is that 20-30 years ago, even though I had the same personality I have today, with the same weakness, it just wasn't a problem. A similar situation is with food in America. I'm from another country and had a pretty healthy weight. Then I moved to the US. All the weight again and associated health problems hit me like a truck. I didn't change as a person, but m…

Not to be harsh, but, like, that is your problem. I, for example, used to be addicted to heroin. If opiates had never been discovered, I guess I probably would have never had a problem with it. But that's a weak excuse. I'm glad I was shown my weakness, because now I am stronger for it. Change and distraction and temptation is an opportunity to truly understand our self. And with understanding comes power.

Re: Being Bored Is Good

#80
post #5

I think boredom is a mechanism for novelty seeking, making us take a step back and maybe try a different activity, a necessary part of the exploration-exploitation tradeoff... because we never know what unknown unknowns we're missing. It's good to do what we know will give us rewards, but maybe there are even better rewards we're passing on, so from time to time it's necessary to sacrifice the safe zone and go out. I…

There is also a theory that attention "disorders" are an adaptation or variation in novelty seeking. i.e. some people are just more wired for novelty seeking Having a population with varied amount of attention seeking seems beneficial for finding the "optimum" for the local environment. Too much novelty seeking and the seekers will all get eaten by bears and starve because they fail to do what is known good. Too litt…

This sounds like group selection
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