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Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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This is as good a time as any to start archiving your favorite channels, you can point youtube-dl at a video URL, a playlist, or a username. brew install youtube-dl youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/user/DEFCONConference/ Showing 2460 videos, I'll have to grab a few harddrives.

but why? there's still https://media.defcon.org/

Oof bad example, thanks

It's just a channel I'd like an offline backup of anyway.

Hoping people post other channels that are worth downloading.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

#73
post #16

I know this might not be a popular opinion. But showing people how to hack systems... that seems like an OK thing to ban. It's a crime. Teaching people how to commit a crime has always been not OK.

How are security professional supposed to learn how to secure systems? This is silly, and I'm not surprised that Google is leaning towards censorship again. Where are all the Google cloud employees when you need them commenting on threads?

> Where are all the Google cloud employees when you need them commenting on threads?

I am a Google employee though not in Cloud. I am not really sure what commenting is going to accomplish here?

I don't agree with this and many other things Google does, whether it be in my org or elsewhere. I am sure this is the case for many employees just from internal communications.

Google is a huge company so I suppose this is just natural, and frankly I don't think the people who make these decisions really care what I or other Googlers think. After all, as the population increases it becomes increasingly difficult to make everyone happy.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

#74

Youtube updating its policy to ban videos they have already monetized from, while the creators get nothing. Youtube is a monopoly. Creators need to get off YT, and onto something else if it exists.

> if it exists

Herein lies the problem.. Most creators/uploaders know on some level that YT is a toxic monopoly and would be happy to jump ship. Granted some more than others, but I've never observed any sense of loyalty towards the platform - it's just where everyone goes to share and watch videos.

However, switching to vimeo/DTube/flixxo/etc means less views and smaller paychecks. Why would content creators in the same amount of effort for less recognition & money? Nothing will change until alternative services solve the problem of monetization & audience size.

Thus a chicken-vs-egg situation where viewers don't want to switch because their favorite uploaders are on YT, uploaders don't want to switch because all their viewers are on YT, and competitors can't convince investors to bankroll them without higher user counts. Meanwhile, the Big G/YT monolith keeps chugging along with thousands of employees and billions of dollars behind it, becoming more deeply entrenched every year. What's the solution?

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

#75
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if it exists. It doesn't.

Vimeo?

Most played youtube video: despacito (6.6 B)

Most played vimeo video: the mountain (77 M)

Most played pornhub video: kim kardashian's sex tape (195 M)

There is quite a headstart for YouTube here when it comes to number of viewers.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

#76

I know this might not be a popular opinion. But showing people how to hack systems... that seems like an OK thing to ban. It's a crime. Teaching people how to commit a crime has always been not OK.

I don't know about banning something because it leads to illegal activity, however I do see why they ban some content. I'm Pro 2a but YouTube was demonetizing, and even removing some, many firearm videos 1-2 years ago and it had everyone in the firearm community in an uproar and the people screaming the most were the uploaders that had videos along the lines of: "what happens if I shoot a barbie doll with a 50 cal" "…

> Like, you aren't teaching people how to safely shoot or reviewing firearms, you're doing stupid stuff that is extremely dangerous and absolutely should not be replicated by viewers at home.

I agree. We should only publish videos of things that are safe for viewers to replicate.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

#78

Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, a group of people powerful enough, with their own interests and their own agenda with access to most peoples minds/lives, and who already publicly explained how they plan to influence on global geopolitics and society building. I find it disturbing this level of censorship. At first, it was pedophiles, murders and violent criminal a…

    sooner than later they will change their definition of morality and we all gonna pay with our freedom
Just wanted to point out that I found this to be a powerful quote. Well said.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, a group of people powerful enough, with their own interests and their own agenda with access to most peoples minds/lives, and who already publicly explained how they plan to influence on global geopolitics and society building. I find it disturbing this level of censorship. At first, it was pedophiles, murders and violent criminal a…

I could definitely get behind your point if the subject were the government. It's not, though I understand the sentiment is the same.

At the end of the day YouTube is a private company. Yea, a very big one with huge reach, but private nonetheless. Taking a subjective moral position is something companies have been doing for a long time. If you disagree with them, don't give them your $ (don't use youtube).

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any recommendations on channels to archive?

- Many convention talks are really good and are too many to list - OWASP - zseano - hackerone - Bugcrowd (Jason Haddix's stuff is a pretty important pillar) - OWASP - DarkOperator - Absolute AppSec - KacperSzureEN - PwnFunction - LiveOverflow There are a ton more, these are just ones I've been watching in the past 6 months or so.

Thank you!
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