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Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

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Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

#72

I was a Dyn customer since the late 90s (I think...). In the early(ish) days they offered a lifetime DNS service for something like $30, so I jumped on the opportunity. I don't think there was much else around at the time... All things considered, I managed to get a pretty good deal out of it. Can't really complain, can I? Anyone knows a good alternative with simple DDNS updaters?

If you paid the $30, you might be considered to be on the Pro plan. I (like others in this thread) received an email stating that Pro service will continue uninterrupted, and no action is required on my part.

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

#73
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This isn't surprising, but still upsetting. First as noted, no Dynamic DNS or DNSSEC?? REALLY?? Come on. Second as also noted, the migration is manually! You have to download a zone record and upload it, and that's after manually creating your account. I'll be switching to Cloudflare. Been considering it for a while, but now it makes sense.

No dynamic DNS? This is literally the name of the company they bought. And the migration is just a sign up for a new service after exporting my zone config? They really don't care about losing customers it would seem. Easy enough, my router supports domains.google.com for ddns and my domain registration is already there, it's time for DNS to follow it.

In general, as a user, if a product you are using gets acquired it's a good reason to move away from it ASAP. More often than not acquirers kill products and keep the talent.

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

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As a lesson to anyone else hoping to do a shutdown with a migration to a different service with your company. If you are going to treat me the same as any new subscriber, where I have to re-signup, re-add my payment method, export my settings and then import them again, you're asking me to buy all over again. If you ask me to buy, then I get will reevaluate the relationship, and if it's just as easy to migrate to ano…

That's pretty much exactly how the transition is for me: Dear Customer, Since Oracle acquired Dyn in 2016 and subsequently acquired Zenedge. The engineering teams have been working diligently to integrate Dyn’s products and network into the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure platform. A majority of Dyn products have now been integrated and upgraded on the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. Accordingly, DynDNS Pro/Remote Access is…

I have been a donating member of the now defunct everydns.net, acquired by DYN in the 2010, sadly then acquired by Oracle in 2016 for some strange reasons, probably because DB experts are always fascinated by DNS experts. Somehow I am then a VIP user of dyn/Oracle, and I have received two emails. One is the aforementioned, containing inflated marketing words for 'Action required please migrate to the best cloud (i.e. Oracle)', the other is 'don't worry, for you VIPs, DYN will remain a separate business unit. No action is required on your part at this time'. AT THIS TIME.

I think I will install for my personal domains a good chrooted bind (or powerdns) on a couple of public facing linux servers. AT THIS TIME sounds too intimidating to me.

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

#76

I didn't renew my Dyn subscrition a few months ago, considering they had increased their pricing model and offered nothing new. And being owned by "evil" Oracle didn't help. Today it's relatively easy to build a self-hosted dynamic DNS equivalent, e.g. https://github.com/dprandzioch/docker-ddns so I'm in the process of solving the issue like this.

isn't the point of dynamic DNS that it's not self-hosted? It should be on a static IP somewhere outside the network/IP you want to monitor. I run a server at home and I can always just go update my DNS records to some new IP but the catch is I cannot ssh home without knowing the new IP address, hence the point of a dynamic DNS service. If you host that in the same network, what's the point? You lose access to it too.

From the README of the linked repository:

> All you need is a cheap VPS, a domain and access to it's nameserver.

I personally find it a bit misleading to classify this as being "self-hosted", seeing as how it's effectively the same as every other dynamic DNS service.

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

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As a lesson to anyone else hoping to do a shutdown with a migration to a different service with your company. If you are going to treat me the same as any new subscriber, where I have to re-signup, re-add my payment method, export my settings and then import them again, you're asking me to buy all over again. If you ask me to buy, then I get will reevaluate the relationship, and if it's just as easy to migrate to ano…

A few years ago, we needed to move 4 VMs from one host in a DC nearby to on-prem. They were in their own little IP subnet, and they ran this crappy software called CoPath from Cerner. The app, being written in PowerBuilder, it was a delicate app, and I called up Cerner to ask the best way to move these VMs since we'd need to change the IP address space they occupied. Cerner said they had no idea what might happen, it…

Some software I used to work on, had this sort of issue. Customers would call up and say "how do I change the machine's IP address" and Support would reply "you can't, you have to reinstall".

What was really going on: there were a whole bunch of config files, into several of which the installer embedded whatever was the machine IP at install time. Support didn't know exactly how many files there were. Engineering was asked to document them all but for whatever reason were dragging their feet on doing it. My attitude was – why can't we just do a search&replace? Response I got – we can't trust customers/Support to do that without making a mess of it.

Eventually, engineering wrote and shipped a "change machine IP tool" which knew about exactly which config files contained the machine IP. Finally, we had a supported procedure for changing the IP address of the server.

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No dynamic DNS? This is literally the name of the company they bought. And the migration is just a sign up for a new service after exporting my zone config? They really don't care about losing customers it would seem. Easy enough, my router supports domains.google.com for ddns and my domain registration is already there, it's time for DNS to follow it.

In general, as a user, if a product you are using gets acquired it's a good reason to move away from it ASAP. More often than not acquirers kill products and keep the talent.

And sometimes, they don't even keep the talent: https://www.unionleader.com/news/business/workers-at-oracle-...

Re: Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

#80

I'm confused. What happens to DynDns accounts that have been paid-up beyond 2020 or folks that bought the "lifetime" subscription?

I have a lifetime subscription, and received the same email saying service is ending.

The product's lifetime, not yours ;).
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