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Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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This made me wince. I haven't backed up my mac in 10 months now simply out of laziness, it contains some sensitive client work that NDA doesn't allow me to put in the cloud, it's millions of dollars worth of work and contracts, if I lose it, my company loses those clients as well. And my MBP gets really hot sometimes. Expect a TIFU from me at anytime.

> laziness

You mean professional negligence.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#72
post #15

> I produce music for a living - FIVE days without my computer is unacceptable Then get two computers as a backup? While here it's Apple's issue, it could just as well be your fault that the laptop died (e.g. dropping it). Then you wouldn't have any laptop, but also no justification to demand an immediate replacement or deem not receiving one "unacceptable"...

> Either put up with your computer exploding and not being able to do your job for a few days, or spend another two grand to buy a whole other computer you probably won't use.

Fixed that for you. I get the point generally, but there's a great difference between "I damaged my computer and it will take a week to fix" and "My computer spontaneously combusted and it will take a week to fix". Namely, fault and impact. When you damage your computer, you are at fault and you are impacted. Fair. When your computer goes boom, Apple is (probably) at fault, but you are still impacted.

Though yeah, not backing up your stuff is inexcusable in the age of cheap, ubiquitous storage space. Particularly in the cloud.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#73
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on this information I infer that you have a desktop machine. If you had a PC laptop you’d be equally screwed, with zero chance the shop had a spare motherboard for your machine. Granted you’d be equally screwed with a Mac Mini or iMac but fundamentally this has nothing to do with Apple vs PC. Desktop PCs that can be changed with standard parts or even custom built are not the market norm anymore and entered the…

Not true,IMO 1 I would have got the person at the shop check it and tell me if I need a new laptop or a new part, this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop, then the shop person offered to buy the display and RAM from me and I sold it, so a different person would be able to fix his laptop 2 a spare part can be found from a different laptop or ordered online by the shop, so they can orde…

So other laptops are exactly like macbooks, but presumably the spare parts are less prevalent?

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that we need "right to repair", there should not be a monopoly on who can fix something or who can create parts, A second point is that waiting 5 days for someone to look at your hardware and tell you if it can or can't be fixed is also a problem. At least you don't wait 1 week for a response, then a week for parts to arrive and then a few days for the thing to be fixed. I am not sure why you felt the nee…

You already have a right to buy stuff and put it together yourself and fix it. Go do that. Or pay someone to do it. I prefer the super thin, svelte designed devices that simply cannot be made easily repairable. There is no “right” to enforce your particular design and implementation standards on manufacturers. You’re inventing rights that do not and should not exist. If you want to tinker, that’s great. Go tinker. Mo…

You are covering up the actual facts:"

1 if you publish Apples repair manuals apple with come after you, explain me how is this hurting the consumer, how is this making your phone thinker ?

2 Apple is preventing imports of parts from refurbished hardware, is this helping with the phone dimensions?

3 I don't want to repair my computer, I want others to repair them for me, It is idiotic(your words) to insinuate that people want to fix stuff themselves, it is not, is it possible to stop repeating this "idiotic" statement???

4 some companies introduce DRM to prevent fixing stuff, is this helping the consumer? how? if I have 2 identical broken laptops and I want to move parts from A to B to get 1 working one why should DRM prevent this? Is is my hardware, I have the right to use it as I want, it is a right to do with my property what I want if I do not hurt others, Please, please let me know why DRM should prevent me do what I want with my hardware,

About your thing phone statements, I am not proposing hardware companies make them like LEGOs, If they make it so fixing a key means replacing the entire phone or laptop the company will pay through their nose when the keys start failing, so I personally I am not your target for thin phones rage.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#75
post #15

> I produce music for a living - FIVE days without my computer is unacceptable Then get two computers as a backup? While here it's Apple's issue, it could just as well be your fault that the laptop died (e.g. dropping it). Then you wouldn't have any laptop, but also no justification to demand an immediate replacement or deem not receiving one "unacceptable"...

Exactly, even we're not at fault we shouldn't completely rely on other parties. I keep my old laptop as a backup in case my new one fails. It never did since I bought it in 2014 but who knows what's about to happen. Git pull, USB disk with backups and some installations and I should be OK for the couple of days I need to order and get the new parts.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#76

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That's why I would never buy a Ferrari. In my small town, I wouldn't be able to find anyone to work on it. What a crap car.

Do you insinuate that Apple hardware is a fashion statement and not for real work? If I live in a big city can I get my iMac/MacBook fixed without scheduling in 1-2 hours? I seen the LTT saga with the iMac where they could not fix it so it would be like you crash your Ferarri and you have to wait for them to first train the mechanics and create the spare parts and after that have it fixed.

>be like you crash your Ferarri and you have to wait for them to first train the mechanics and create the spare parts and after that have it fixed.

Yeah, that’s actually exactly how it works. Good luck getting spare parts for a new Ferrari, all the parts will be headed for the assembly line and not towards your car.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#77
post #71

This made me wince. I haven't backed up my mac in 10 months now simply out of laziness, it contains some sensitive client work that NDA doesn't allow me to put in the cloud, it's millions of dollars worth of work and contracts, if I lose it, my company loses those clients as well. And my MBP gets really hot sometimes. Expect a TIFU from me at anytime.

> laziness You mean professional negligence.

There’s no need to personally attack people, they’re an adult with contracts to handle this.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#78
I'm sitting here typing this response on a 2016 MBP (the first gen with the butterfly keyboard and touchbar). Due to some thermal issues, I unscrewed the cover to blow the dust out and discovered my batteries are all swelling. Yikes. I wonder if there's a follow-on recall in a year or so for this generation. I bought a battery replace kit from ifixit so I might kick the can down the road for a bit longer, time will tell.

More broadly thinking though, Unix/BSD underpinnings OS, driver support, and hardware that sacrificed thin/light for components that were reliable and some DIY capability? I kid can dream

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#79
post #15

> I produce music for a living - FIVE days without my computer is unacceptable Then get two computers as a backup? While here it's Apple's issue, it could just as well be your fault that the laptop died (e.g. dropping it). Then you wouldn't have any laptop, but also no justification to demand an immediate replacement or deem not receiving one "unacceptable"...

Hmm not sure I have come across Uber driver having a second car as a backup.

MacBook Pro is an expensive piece of equipment and someone who produces music for living (or any other freelancers really) must have stretched their budget to get the primary machine itself.

If I pay top dollars for anything then I do hope that I don't have to pay top dollars again for having a backup of that.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

#80
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true,IMO 1 I would have got the person at the shop check it and tell me if I need a new laptop or a new part, this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop, then the shop person offered to buy the display and RAM from me and I sold it, so a different person would be able to fix his laptop 2 a spare part can be found from a different laptop or ordered online by the shop, so they can orde…

So other laptops are exactly like macbooks, but presumably the spare parts are less prevalent?

No, the laptop was old and not in a great condition, I would have to buy new motherboard,CPU and who knows what, I preferred not to invest my money into that and get a new one.
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