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Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by karussell » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:18 AM UTC

Aissen wrote: post #44

It seems that Lenovo has been certifying their model for Ubuntu (probably for enterprise customers) for a quite a long time. There are a bit less models recently, but a few already have an Ubuntu 18.04 certification: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?query=&cate...

I can confirm that "everything works" is true for at least my T460. For Ubuntu 18.04 you even get BIOS updates via software updates. Battery life is also very good. With Ubuntu now again on Gnome I cannot complain. Under Ubuntu 16.04 I had occasionally problems where I needed to restart the network manager to see new wifi networks (wifi itself was always stable!), but this minor thing is also no issue anymore.

Recently my CPU broke down and I was "lucky" to try out the on-site warranty to replace my mainboard, which was not perfect (took a few days compared to the advertised "next business day"), but better compared to sending your stuff somewhere or searching your repair shop.

Also note that I do not use any nvidia graphics or 3d games. Just have not tried it and I know this could be a weak point. Videos etc work flawlessly though.

It is also no "free hardware" (bios etc). For an alternative in that regard I recommend to have a look into the nice Librem line from Purism: https://puri.sm/products/

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by stemuk » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:23 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm.

The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big).

Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am stuck with it until a better version comes along.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by thinkingemote » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:25 AM UTC

_Donny wrote: post #13

meruru wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a Linux distro. Anyone can make one.

Yes, but even though I myself have created my own Linux distro, I would absolutely not be able to do that with restricted internet access, without access to the guide-books, and without the help of IRC. I suspect this would be the case for most of my developer friends as well.

The distros are not being created by independent developers and then the state uses the distros, the distros are being made by the very state itself. The same organisation that will lift internet access and guide books and send their staff overseas to get training.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by rofrol » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:29 AM UTC

josteink wrote: post #40

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

> You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. They offer ISO-images for these updates too. You can also create a USB-bootable version from these using the geteltorito tool (which is available via apt). https://workaround.org/article/updating-the-bios-on-lenovo-l... Edit: > OK, so all these problems are all due to my specific situation (running dual boot Why are you using GRUB to dual-boo…

guix sd is using grub to create restore points

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by josteink » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:31 AM UTC

rofrol wrote: post #74

josteink wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. They offer ISO-images for these updates too. You can also create a USB-bootable version from these using the geteltorito tool (which is available via apt). https://workaround.org/article/updating-the-bios-on-lenovo-l... Edit: > OK, so all these problems are all due to my specific situation (running dual boot Why are you using GRUB to dual-boo…

guix sd is using grub to create restore points

Sure. Use grub to manage your advanced Linux needs, but you don’t need to use it to manage dual-booting of other OSes.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by enriquto » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:39 AM UTC

stemuk wrote: post #72

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm. The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big). Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am s…

you can use the "arandr" program to set any possible resolution. No idea what is "factorial" scaling, though.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by NullPrefix » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:39 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

>TB3 dock never works properly

Do these even work on Windows?

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by y4mi » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:43 AM UTC

enriquto wrote: post #76

stemuk wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm. The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big). Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am s…

you can use the "arandr" program to set any possible resolution. No idea what is "factorial" scaling, though.

"scale with factor 1.4" to increase the display size by 40%

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by vinu76jsr » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:55 AM UTC

stemuk wrote: post #72

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm. The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big). Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am s…

iGPU usually drops frames on fractional scaling(I think I enabled it via tweaks app), I don't mind it that much but it still is an inconvenience.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by enriquto » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:55 AM UTC

y4mi wrote: post #78

enriquto wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can use the "arandr" program to set any possible resolution. No idea what is "factorial" scaling, though.

"scale with factor 1.4" to increase the display size by 40%

The word "factorial" makes no sense here. Maybe "fractional"?

Besides, what is the fucking point of "scaling" at the display level? Isn't it exactly equivalent to setting the font size in points using your physical resolution?