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Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by hef19898 »

Angostura wrote: post #63
chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

They are probably just sick of having photos in documents that have been stretched horizontally, or documents with bloody manually created tables of contents because the last person didn't know how to use heading styles. >twitch<

What kind of impression that leaves with your customer when your studies are so badly formated? And you need a lot of people to properly format the thousands upon thousands of documents...

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by hef19898 »

rangibaby wrote: post #34
alex_hitchins wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to recall something along the lines of large bombers running valves as they were less prone to effects of EMP around nuclear blasts. Not sure if this perhaps something similar?

From wiki for the MiG-25: The majority of the on-board avionics were based on vacuum-tube technology, not solid-state electronics. Although they represented aging technology, vacuum tubes were more tolerant of temperature extremes, thereby removing the need for environmental controls in the avionics bays. With the use of vacuum tubes, the MiG-25P's original Smerch-A (Tornado, NATO reporting name "Foxfire") radar had…

Well, at least in that case it seems like a conscious design decision. Not sure how much of the state of the art design and tech was driven by "I like the colour" or "the supplier is in my state".

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by nabla9 »

Modern is relative. F-22's first flight was 1997. F-35 development started in 1992, first flight of X-35 was 2000 and F-35's first flight was 2006.

There is absolutely noting wrong with using old technology. Being modern just for the sake of being modern is wasteful.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by godzillabrennus »

avar wrote: post #53
chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

More like: "We ended up hiring the guy most competent at MS Word at the expense of everything else, because out of the five requirements it was the only one the managers doing the interview knew anything about". "Johnson! We're promoting you to head technical flight operations. We can't believe the level of your MS Word skills!" "Senator, we have no idea why the F-22 inexplicably crashed. That software was designed b…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert_principle

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by noneeeed »

Reminds me of my first job out of uni, 18 years ago. I was working on the SPARK toolset, and one of our customers was the Eurofighter, who still used VAX VMS for their development.

We had to maintain an old Micro VAX box in the office to periodically test that the toolset still worked on it. I seem to remember that the massive regression test suite that would run in a few hours every night on a PC would take days on this box.

Our main worry was that one day we'd turn it on and the drive would fail to spin up. I seem to remember there being a periodic reminder to just turn the damn thing on and let it boot every so often, then shut it down, just to make sure the drive was still ok.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by mhh__ »

ddalex wrote: post #69
apexalpha wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/EN0ZkXU.png (sorry)

This is not Reddit. I know because I am often confused myself.

No, this is HN. It's the same people as Reddit only being pretentious is somehow fine here because we're special?

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by Taniwha »

metaphor wrote: post #15
eccbits wrote: post #7

This is surely about VME industrial bus, not about VAX processors or computers.

The only mention of VAX/VME from the job post: > Experience with troubleshooting equipment such as Pass1000/5000 1553 bus monitor, fiber-optic test equipment, digital storage oscilloscopes, and familiarization with the VAX/VME based computing environment. Seems apparent to me that the context is development+ATE environment; VME is likely VXI interface to ATE instrumentation. In any case, the VMS and/or VME angle to t…

I wondered if that was a typo and they meant VAX/VMS (DEC's OS that ran on the Vax)

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by structural »

dvdbloc wrote: post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

Defense contractors are similar to other companies that (strongly) do not believe that software is their product and do not value it any further than that it is a small component in the large system they are delivering. There's a lot of old-school attitudes still present: for example, I've heard software developers referred to as "software typists" a number of times.

Basically there are two entirely different paths here. For example, the person who writes all the software to drive the cockpit displays is probably called something like a "cockpit avionics engineer" and is organizationally in the department that's responsible for building such things. These people can get paid very well.

On the other hand, a "software developer" is much more likely to be a support function. Lots of maintenance of legacy stuff more than anything, and what actual development work exists might be nothing more than taking an algorithm directly from a standard and implementing it in whatever language is required by the project. These roles are not particularly well-paid and have a lot of turnover.

It is a very different world.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by mxcrossb »

bdowling wrote: post #57
chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

If his resume didn’t say anything about MS Office, then he’d be screened out by HR and the managers would never get to consider him. So, that conversation would never happen.

Knowing to put ms office on your resume to get by HR’s stupidity is exactly the kind of skills needed to work in a big company
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