I like how we just casually analyze public salaries but if you did this for any comparably large company, it would be far, far more f'd up.
How much are professors paid?
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Re: How much are professors paid?
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was an adjunct for one semester, many years ago. I mentioned my experiences to my mom, who is a retired high school teacher. Her response: "Now you know why teachers have a union."
Because the price determined by the market is wrong. Wrong! I wish taxpayers had a union.
We got that Howard Jarvis thing that brought us so much wonderful stuff... like Prop 13.
Re: How much are professors paid?
#73Adjunct/non-tenure faculty should be kept in mind. Depending on the school, somewhere between 40% and 70% is quite typical for instructors that are not paid a salaried wage. Instead, they typically received a certain amount per course taught. The overall average for this is about $3,000/course, but I believe this is brought down by small private & for-profit schools. At a typical public school $4000/course is a good…
Adjuncts are the glue that keeps our university system from shattering—they keep departments alive even as the number of tenure jobs dwindle and administration swells. Ask yourself: how does one pay off six figures of accumulated undergraduate and graduate debt on 25 grand a year? Answer: you never do. Now imagine that you get to compete with hundreds of other PhDs entering the workforce for this "privilege." Adjunct…
Isn’t that more of a signal that so many people shouldn’t be chasing PHDs?
Re: How much are professors paid?
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the price determined by the market is wrong. Wrong! I wish taxpayers had a union.
Tax payers sort of do have a union where the collective bargaining takes place in the form of electing official to work on their behalf. Often enough though, those elected end up working against the intersts of voters, sometimes explicitly advocating for policies that voters don't realize are not in their interests. Not unlike unions that hire a negotiator to work on their behalf, if the negotiator ignored the contra…
Except suffrage is not limited to taxpayers.
Re: How much are professors paid?
#75Wow. All those college bucks are not going to Prof salaries.
Re: How much are professors paid?
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tax payers sort of do have a union where the collective bargaining takes place in the form of electing official to work on their behalf. Often enough though, those elected end up working against the intersts of voters, sometimes explicitly advocating for policies that voters don't realize are not in their interests. Not unlike unions that hire a negotiator to work on their behalf, if the negotiator ignored the contra…
Except suffrage is not limited to taxpayers.
Not sure what you mean. Everyone doesn't pay all types of taxes, but everyone pays some types. Payroll tax, sales tax, etc.
Re: How much are professors paid?
#77I’m an adjunct faculty at ASU and make $4,000/year for one course. This stipend is a nice gesture but I do it for the kids.
What happens if you teach multiple sections of the same course? Like a morning section and an evening section? Do you get paid double or once?
ASU explicitly disallows adjunct faculty from holding multiple courses. I have no idea why.
Re: How much are professors paid?
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the price determined by the market is wrong. Wrong! I wish taxpayers had a union.
Most adjuncts are in the business of selling their services to effective monopsonies. Oligopolies, at best. Free market economics don’t exonerate the result.
I don’t agree with the parent but calling the educational system a monopsony sounds even less believable, there are tens of thousands of educational institutions in America alone
Re: How much are professors paid?
#79Tl;dr Not much...
Re: How much are professors paid?
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
That couldn't be less true. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously not "everyone" is a professor when you mix in facilities and administrative staff. If you're trying to more narrowly say "all instructors are considered professors", that's not true at any institution type, not even R1 (major research Universities) https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/10112018%20Data%20S...
My understanding that almost all academics with tenure and even many without in the US calls themselves a ‘professor.’ I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that PDF - it doesn't even mention the word!
Their title would be something like lecturer. I suppose students might call them professor, or they might insist on being called professor just like some Ph.D graduates might insist on being called 'Doctor' even though they're not a medical doctor.
An associate professor would at least be tenure-track.