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Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by a254613e »

OskarS wrote: post #46
xupybd wrote: post #37

Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone on HN defend AMP. We all hate it. It's a pox on the modern web.

Depends on who you mean by "we", people working directly on implementing/supporting AMP? Anti-google crowd? Sure, you're probably right.

But as someone who's just an end user, and not working on frontend development who likes AMP, I don't bother commenting when the opinion is extremely skewed to one side.

I love AMP. The website loads faster, feels a lot snappier, and is overall positive experience for me. That's what I care about. I don't care how it got to that point, I want usable and fast loading website - and AMP gives me that.

Can this be speed and mobile friendliness be implemented without AMP? Yes. Is it implemented without AMP? Very rarely.

Of course there's the argument with google trying to get a tighter grip on web and while that is not a good thing the truth is that I, and huge majority of average consumers, just don't care if it means better results for me.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by rangerpolitic »

tobr wrote: post #18

Arguably this means that Google is breaking point 11 of their own AMP Cache Guidelines [1]. If I ran any AMP pages, I would be quite upset. 1: https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/master/spec/amp-c...

When you have the power to write the rules, you can break the rules. Google is too powerful.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by koboll »

xupybd wrote: post #37

Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.

AMP should be the first stop on the federal government's antitrust investigation. The sheer unfairness of being granted search priority if you hand over your content to Google is the pinnacle of leveraging monopoly power to gain power in another industry.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by yreg »

xupybd wrote: post #37

Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.

That moment when you tap the omnibox planning to copy the URL and realise you are not on the actual site you meant to visit.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by maaaats »

graeme wrote: post #42

AMP links are a major reason I switched to duckduckgo on mobile. Google seems to be shortsighted in doing this. Yes, only a tiny minority of technical users will know what amp pages are and switch search engines to avoid them. But, a larger group will likely find the amp pages annoying , even if they can't precisely articulate why. This weakens google's hold on the market.

Google is serving a broken page for Firefox on Android (intentionally serving something along oldschool wap pages). I used an addon to fix that, but then the page suddenly was full of ads, videos, smart boxes and amp links.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by Aissen »

OskarS wrote: post #46
xupybd wrote: post #37

Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone on HN defend AMP. We all hate it. It's a pox on the modern web.

I've defended it in the past when it used to be faster (combined with pre-loading) than most websites, on mobile. Nowadays, it should be quite easy to optimize a website enough to be faster than the AMP version, but it seems not many websites are even trying…

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by GavinMcG »

koboll wrote: post #73
xupybd wrote: post #37

Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.

AMP should be the first stop on the federal government's antitrust investigation. The sheer unfairness of being granted search priority if you hand over your content to Google is the pinnacle of leveraging monopoly power to gain power in another industry.

What "power in another industry" is being gained?

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by seieste »

heinrich5991 wrote: post #54
bitL wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is fun now; start Tor, try to visit a soon-to-be-banned sub-reddit, enjoy Tor's tracking notifications not present on normal reddit sub-reddits. Looks like reddit is turning into one large honeypot.

I don't understand, can you elaborate? What are Tor's tracking notifications?

I think bitL is saying that reddit embeds some sort of tracking script in “soon-to-be-banned subreddits” that they don’t embed in normal subteddits, and that you can tell this from notifications within Tor

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Post by mtgx »

Aissen wrote: post #76
OskarS wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone on HN defend AMP. We all hate it. It's a pox on the modern web.

I've defended it in the past when it used to be faster (combined with pre-loading) than most websites, on mobile. Nowadays, it should be quite easy to optimize a website enough to be faster than the AMP version, but it seems not many websites are even trying…

I'm pretty sure there were multiple comments about being able to make an AMP-alternative with regular HTML that's just as fast from the very first AMP-related post on HN. It may even have been the top comment for some of the first posts.
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