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Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by fwn »

rapsey wrote: post #65
fwn wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds to me like moving the goalpost. First it was both: > Trying to sell something to privacy obsessed tech segment is a futile effort. They are never happy and don’t want to pay for anything anyway. But that is not their target market anyway. Now just > But that is not their target market anyway.

I was replying to a comment about negative comments here and that they are not who apple is targeting so the negativity here is just noise. Those listed companies exist in an entirely different universe to apple and talking about them is entirely irrelevant here. Their existence proves nothing.

Other peoples concerns are not "noise" in any other than a derogative way and listing companies that refute a substantial part of your comment under your comment is not "entirely irrelevant".

edit (for clarity): Saying that Apples mass-market approach spares them from catering to privacy concerned, somewhat still niche interests would've been a completely valid comment.

The message would not have needed the false part.

Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by dewey »

IMTDb wrote: post #53
threeseed wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can release a free app and sell subscriptions through real world means e.g. advertising, PR. You control the customers and you pay Apple nothing. So this idea that Apple is forcing developers to do anything is nonsense.

We are a B2B SAAS company offering analytics and marketing data. We wanted to offer our customer the ability to have a free app to interact with our service on their phone. We wanted our customers to subscribe on the web but not using in-app subscriptions. We are unable to release this app on the AppStore until we change our whole payment/subscription/billing stack to support Apple subscription system and agree to gi…

> We wanted our customers to subscribe on the web but not using in-app subscriptions.

But you can, and that's what a lot of companies including Netflix do?

Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by rahoulb »

stef25 wrote: post #45
afiori wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether what they are doing is legal or will go unpunished remains to be discovered. In the meanwhile there is a considerable increase in public awareness of (e.g.) how creepy facebook is (I know that the biggest facebook competitor is instagram, but there is a real difference between how people interact with the two platforms and also in expectations on how much public your profile and post are)

> In the meanwhile there is a considerable increase in public awareness of (e.g.) how creepy facebook is Every non tech person I know has some notion of FB being creepy but not a single one has changed their online behavior in any way. Everyone cares until it's actually time to delete your account.

Anecdotal I know, but I know of several people who now refuse to install the Facebook app on their phones (instead using the website) because they don't want "Facebook listening in on their conversations"

Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by jdietrich »

IMTDb wrote: post #53
threeseed wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can release a free app and sell subscriptions through real world means e.g. advertising, PR. You control the customers and you pay Apple nothing. So this idea that Apple is forcing developers to do anything is nonsense.

We are a B2B SAAS company offering analytics and marketing data. We wanted to offer our customer the ability to have a free app to interact with our service on their phone. We wanted our customers to subscribe on the web but not using in-app subscriptions. We are unable to release this app on the AppStore until we change our whole payment/subscription/billing stack to support Apple subscription system and agree to gi…

Spotify have lodged a complaint against Apple with the European Competition Commission over precisely this issue.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/13/spotify-files-a-complaint-...

Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by pulse7 »

amelius wrote: post #16

Their marketing campaign ("what happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone") is of course providing a false sense of security ...

This message is a big lie... there were many cases, where police got the data about "what happened on your iPhone"... How can they say such untruth? Can one sue for such untruth in marketing in US?

Re: Apple is now a privacy-as-a-service company

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Post by zahrc »

I’ve been in this circlejerk of hating apple for its very expensive and closed environment. I’ve been using windows and android for years, until I started working in security which actually made me realize how vulnerable data is and how certain providers and services treat their consumer data and that privacy comes with a price.

I switched to an iPhone XR now and I couldn’t be happier, even tho I wish some of the features would be implemented for other platforms, especially Linux and windows. I’m not saying that apple is completely trustworthy nor perfect, but in the end it’s an compromise I’m willing to make, when the other choice is google/Samsung.

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