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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by kelnos »

dyarosla wrote: post #38
wvenable wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you're clearly correct. But Apple pushing this does give it a sense of legitimacy and blocking signups from this service might just cause less signups than actually forcing people to use their real address. If Apple makes this extremely user friendly and quick to use than blocking it will cause a loss of signups.

Devils advocate: ‘Error: We love Apple and anonymity but we require a real email address to prevent fraud and to properly secure your account. Please enter your real email address.’

Presumably Apple won't let just anyone put the "Sign in With Apple" button on their website, or will at least have a method of blocking bad actors.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by ruffrey »

We've been thinking about this for Mailsac.com. It is already possibly but clunky. Considered making browser plugins to make it easier to create and route disposable addresses, and "black hole" disposable email addresses once it's clear they've been resold to advertisers.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

nextos wrote: post #56
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #50

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If you don’t use apple, I just built this as a stand-alone product: https://idbloc.co

There is also spamgourmet, which is free and has been around for 20 years.

Unfortunately they’re not accepting new signups

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by gruez »

mediocrejoker wrote: post #69
dyarosla wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Devils advocate: ‘Error: We love Apple and anonymity but we require a real email address to prevent fraud and to properly secure your account. Please enter your real email address.’

This is going to be a tough sell to your marketing dept I think.

Is it though? Think about zuckerberg's "dumb fucks" quote.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by dvtrn »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #73
nextos wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also spamgourmet, which is free and has been around for 20 years.

Unfortunately they’re not accepting new signups

Is there by chance a Firefox add-on on your product roadmap? This looks interesting

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by awinder »

DuskStar wrote: post #59
jdminhbg wrote: post #47

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Nothing is forcing them to, and lots probably won't. The carrot is the much lower friction for sign up for users. It's similar to Apple Pay, where you don't get credit card info, but you do get a much easier user flow that will get you more signups.

But will it be lower friction than login with Google or Facebook? It feels like it's more common for someone to have an account from one of those two than from Apple, and so "sign on with Apple" will never be able to be the only SSO option, while Google or Facebook could be. If the better (for the site) SSO options also have near-universal market penetration, what's the incentive to add Apple?

I would venture a guess that apple/icloud accounts are the highest % account type amongst iPhone holders. All sorts of people have reasons for not having gmail / facebook / etc., but apple account setup is pretty prominent in device setup.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by jdminhbg »

DuskStar wrote: post #59
jdminhbg wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is forcing them to, and lots probably won't. The carrot is the much lower friction for sign up for users. It's similar to Apple Pay, where you don't get credit card info, but you do get a much easier user flow that will get you more signups.

But will it be lower friction than login with Google or Facebook? It feels like it's more common for someone to have an account from one of those two than from Apple, and so "sign on with Apple" will never be able to be the only SSO option, while Google or Facebook could be. If the better (for the site) SSO options also have near-universal market penetration, what's the incentive to add Apple?

It's lower friction in that instead of having to click through an OAuth screen (and possibly re-enter your Google password), you just auth with FaceID/TouchID. And if you're writing an iOS app, then obviously the user has an Apple account.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by prdonahue »

jbeckham wrote: post #53

Maybe I'm cynical, but this looks more like a data hording scheme than a protect my privacy enhancement. If I use Google to sign in, Google and the app has that data and can monetize it. Now if I sign in using Apple, they are going to have the data to monetize. They may keep the app from getting my information, but that means that their data is better than someone else's data, so it is more valuable. Also, they are g…

Who do you trust more _not_ to do sketchy stuff with your data, Apple or Google? For me it's unequivocally Apple.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by crooked-v »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #57

Companies already massive dislike fake/temporary emails. Go find a throwaway email service and you'll find many many websites blacklist them. I'll actually be angry if Apple succeeds, because it'll just mean I can only have private email address as an apple customer and not anywhere else. Many companies might make an exception for Apple, but not anyone else.

On the other hand, if Apple succeeds, this gives a clear route to push for other services that work the same way.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by nihonde »

nwsm wrote: post #15

What's the incentive for apps to offer it? Now they don't get user data.

They still get user data. They just can’t tie it to a real person outside the scope of their app.
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