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What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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Since this is recirculating in the public consciousness, I'm going to repeat my pet theory: they're automated Von Neumann probes that have been in the solar system (and probably ~all star systems in the galaxy) for longer than humanity has existed, and are performing reconnaissance now that there are signs of intelligent life on the planet. I like this theory because it obviates large problems with other theories, ie…

Why would Von Neumann probes make silent, sharp, right angled turns at impossible speeds with no visible thrust, defying the known laws of physics. It can't be evidence of aliens if it isn't even possible.

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soon they’ll be A/B testing stealth designs. “Model AST—12-7 flying over NYC generated 23 reports of UFO sightings, whereas model TYR-X3 generated 5 along the same route; moving forward, we should adopt TYR-X3 for all chemtrail operations...”

With everyone glued to smart phones it is getting easier and easier to be "stealthy"

There's actually schemes to detect stealth aircraft through the changes in signal strength they induce in cell phones below their flight path. Not precise enough for targeting, but good enough to put up a plane to confirm...

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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Having dealt with some of these systems, let me tell you up front, its entirely possible it's nothing. I've seen tracks like those suggested in the article pass directly overhead support vessels during maneuvers, and theres nothing there. It can happen a few times a day or even hour, and just means your sensor fusion is a bit janky. tfa: "This, in turn, provides very high fidelity 'tracks' of targets thanks to teleme…

If you watch the videos in the article interviewing crew members, they express great doube that these were sensor anomalies. They mention replacing equipment, doing several re-calibrations, and that the detections were multi-spectral and even corroborated on separate craft and sensor packages.

I'm a former military avionics dude who worked on systems like this, including "black" stuff. I don't believe in extraterrestrials having visited Earth.

Their explanations sound pretty on-target and baffling.

But anyway, they address the concerns you bring up rather well.

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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They may be US drones. If some stealth technology needs to be field tested, flying around a carrier group on a training mission is a good way to do it.

Something like the XQ-58A Valkyrie combat drone or the BQM-167A target drone. Those are unclassified and have performance beyond what most manned aircraft can do. There are probably others that are still classified.

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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My favorite conspiracy theory (emphasis on theory, this is pure speculation) is they're Chinese drones. The logic basically goes that 3M accidentally created a force field[1] in a factory[2], factories are mostly in China now, so if "running a factory" leads to antigravity tech, China would be the ones to develop it. As much as "I want to believe", if it's true they're not American, it's quite possible they're not al…

Assumption: the military is in control of this narrative and the narrative is meant for the consumption of our adversaries. Conclusion: the intended narrative is that we are testing advanced systems against our own battle groups. Beware. I don’t know what the tech is or if it’s as sensational as being reported by the “witnesses” but the intent is to give the impression that we have highly sophisticated tech waiting i…

>the intent is to give the impression that we have highly sophisticated tech waiting in the wings

Interesting theory. Considering all the hubbub I've heard about "anti carrier cruise missiles[1]" lately, it could make sense there's an incentive to project strength.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ship_ballistic_missile#Ch...

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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I'm surprised the article doesn't reference the recent Bob Lazar documentary which deals with this alleged tech from a first-hand perspective (Bob was a whistleblower in a lab that worked on a kind of gravity drive, according to him.)

It's quite well-produced, and it's probably the only UFO-related film I consider worth watching: https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/bob-lazar-area-51-flying-s...

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tic Tac thing is insane. As far as I understand, its evidence was: - At least two radar systems (boat and then plane) registering it - At least two IR/thermal imaging systems (the two planes') registering it - At least four eye-witnesses registering something when looking for it (two people on each plane, seeing something large near the water's surface with the Tic Tac coming out and flying around) - The ship rad…

from the article, a description of "Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC)" system: >What most don't realize is that the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group wasn't just equipped with some of the most advanced sensors the world had to offer, but that it also had hands-down the most advanced networking and computer processing capability of any such system. Dubbed Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC), this integrated air de…

Interesting thought. I don't know any details of how that data fusion system works. But I can easily think of combinations of bad input and filters that result in phantoms with seemingly omposdible characteristics. But the fact remains that the information is still vague and contradictory, so it probably not possible to get close to the truth. Almost everything is neccesarily speculation, on either side.

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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post #72

Since this is recirculating in the public consciousness, I'm going to repeat my pet theory: they're automated Von Neumann probes that have been in the solar system (and probably ~all star systems in the galaxy) for longer than humanity has existed, and are performing reconnaissance now that there are signs of intelligent life on the planet. I like this theory because it obviates large problems with other theories, ie…

Why would Von Neumann probes make silent, sharp, right angled turns at impossible speeds with no visible thrust, defying the known laws of physics. It can't be evidence of aliens if it isn't even possible.

That makes no sense to me. If something is doing something, then it's automatically possible, which, if lacking another explanation, automatically means it could be evidence of aliens.

And, defying the known laws of physics isn't impossible, either. We can't even know how much we don't know. That leaves a lot of wiggle room.

Re: What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?

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I'm surprised the article doesn't reference the recent Bob Lazar documentary which deals with this alleged tech from a first-hand perspective (Bob was a whistleblower in a lab that worked on a kind of gravity drive, according to him.) It's quite well-produced, and it's probably the only UFO-related film I consider worth watching: https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/bob-lazar-area-51-flying-s...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Lazar&secti...

I don’t think anyone serious takes Bob Lazar seriously!

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