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I think its wondrous that anyone things its okay to ignore Guantanamo and the hundred other CIA black sites where this kind of activity is the norm. Its also scary.
If this is happening at G'mo, it sucks. I haven't heard of any unbelievable turns of faith out of there that brainwashing would cause.
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Has the US ever “snatched up” someone from the middle of London?
Not in London, but GP linked two examples (one in Macedonia and one in Italy). There are also many other examples of CIA-run extraordinary rendition[1]. However in these cases they were both done with co-operation from the local police (or military) and government as part of the US "war on terror" (abductions without local government approval have also happened in the past -- Mossad did this in the 1960s[2] -- but I…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Ahmed_Agiza_an...
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Craig Murray is a former British ambassador.
And current nutjob. Check out his tweets/blogs around the time of the attempted Skripal assassination. His questioning here is clearly in bad faith. Assange successfully evaded justice on most of his charges in Sweden because they have a statute of limitations. It's not something to celebrate. The situation with Assange is all public record. Obama DoJ didn't pursue extradition, Trump DoJ did. Separately to this, Assa…
He was removed from his ambassadorship to Uzbekistan because he protested against human rights violations in Uzbekistan. This may not be what an ambassador should do, but displays integrity.
[1] https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/03/pure-ten-poi...
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> that Sweden isn't actively pursuing the investigation. Ecuador started arranging for him to leave the embassy at least five months ago. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/dec/06/ecuador-says-u... Why didn't Sweden have an extradition request ready? They had at least five months to prepare one.
> Why didn't Sweden have an extradition request ready From what I recall about the situation from past threads is that Sweden cannot send extradition requests in advance. Most criminal courts don't go out of their way to break the rules as that costs and they have to justify the budget. Also why spend extra time and money on something when they could just wait until he was under British custody? Where is the urgency…
Senator Joe Manchin explaining Assange's arrest, and some interesting ideas on property; >"I understand they, I understand they intervened on our behalf. >So we're going to extradite him and we're going to get him back, it'll be really good to get him back on United States soil. >He's our property. So we can get the facts and the truth from him." https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1116322371781058561/video/...
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It is an extradition case: the US have made an extradition request for conspiracy to hack (only). Assange is currently held for that as well as the Bail Act offence.
Has that request been made yet?
What a disgraceful episode for our governments, the media, and the public who seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for a blatantly orchestrated smear campaign. I don’t understand what the hell goes through people’s minds when they see such blatantly trumped up and unprovable charges levied against a big-time persona non grata of the CIA/Pentagon and decide to take them at face value. No matter that the US sprung…
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Has the US ever “snatched up” someone from the middle of London?
They've done it in countries to which they are way less "aligned" than the UK [0] and the UK has historically been the US's strongest partner on all things "national security/terrorism". In that context, I wouldn't really be surprised if it's happened before, tho the blowback potential, if it should become public, would be massive so it will probably be kept under extremely tight wraps. [0] https://www.opensocietyfou…
It was a decent sized scandal that rendition flights had even just refueled in Diego Garcia (a UK territory).
These sorts of things can't be looked at in terms of broad 'alignment'.
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Of course you wouldn't know - this is why these sites are operated clandestinely, and you - the American people - will never know what your government is doing in your name at these sites. Just like the people of the UK don't know what is being done, in the name of their ruler, in sites such as Belmarsh. Those who find this incredible, might want to look - for themselves - at Belmarsh's long history of being a used a…
So where does the real end and the incredible begin, in your opinion? If it appears on Wikileaks it's going to be the truth? Does it end at what's on Wikileaks? What's your requirements for proof to accept incredible, non-milquetoast claims?
Yes, read the Wikileaks. Investigate for yourself and move outside the comfortable safety bubble of mainstream mediathink, which makes such acts 'too incredible to be true'.
It starts with Wikileaks, but ends with effective use of political power by the American people to ensure these heinous acts are revealed to the world. That is, entirely, the point of Assange in the first place - that Americans are being swindled by their governments secrecy into being complicit in crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Or, is your standard "we have been told we are all the good guys, so - no matter what 'mah Russians' have to say about it - we are the good guys"?