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PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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I just closed my PayPal account because of this. Here is a direct Link if you want to do it yourself. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_close-account

I can't close my PayPal account yet (although I will be encouraging my European customers to move to Moneybookers), but ... there's no way to email them about their own corporate actions. Does anybody know of an email address that I can just address with a complaint? Although a paper letter with a real stamp may get their attention more effectively...

Moneybookers already blocked Wikileaks. Sorry :(

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/14/wikileaks-says-f...

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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post #67

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I can't close my PayPal account yet (although I will be encouraging my European customers to move to Moneybookers), but ... there's no way to email them about their own corporate actions. Does anybody know of an email address that I can just address with a complaint? Although a paper letter with a real stamp may get their attention more effectively...

Moneybookers already blocked Wikileaks. Sorry :( http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/14/wikileaks-says-f...

Well, damn.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Exactly. Who's the criminal in this picture?

WikiLeaks. They stole documents and they are publishing them without the consent of the owners. The fact that this owner is the government is irrelevant. How would you feel if it were your personal emails that were published on a public web site like this?

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Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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post #42

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It's a problem that the laws are such that obeying them or being considered ethical by one's customers is a double-bind.

It's even more a problem that the law isn't even on the government's side here...

They'll change the law, as always. That's why they wanted to include Wikileaks as a terrorist org. All the way clean for them.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WikiLeaks. They stole documents and they are publishing them without the consent of the owners. The fact that this owner is the government is irrelevant. How would you feel if it were your personal emails that were published on a public web site like this?

Just on the off-chance that you are serious: it is of the utmost importance that the owner is a government, not a private person. The argument is that the government is keeping secrets from its people without the people being able to change that by normal means. You are also incorrect about Wikileaks stealing any documents. They are only publishing.

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Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WikiLeaks. They stole documents and they are publishing them without the consent of the owners. The fact that this owner is the government is irrelevant. How would you feel if it were your personal emails that were published on a public web site like this?

Just on the off-chance that you are serious: it is of the utmost importance that the owner is a government, not a private person. The argument is that the government is keeping secrets from its people without the people being able to change that by normal means. You are also incorrect about Wikileaks stealing any documents. They are only publishing.

Bullshit, these documents don't belong to them, which is why most ISP's are refusing to host them.

I also happen to find that not everything the government is doing should be public, even in democracies like the US. If you think that 100% transparency is a requirement, you really have no clue how the world of diplomacy is working.

A certain amount of privacy is necessary, just like it's necessary to keep the salaries of employees secret to a certain extent in companies. Chaos would ensue otherwise.

I'm all for airing dirty private dealings and scandals that the government is doing, but the way Wikileaks is doing it is wrong.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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I am reading a lot of boycott statement against Paypal in the comments – and I fully understand – but guys... where have you been when Amazon refused to host Wikileaks? And what about EasyDNS? Paypal is a company doing business and I dislike them as much as you do but please don't forget that Government >> Company. Always.

Have you legally donated money via paypal that has been frozen? Perhaps if you had you would be quite disgusted!!
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