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The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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My guess is it helps people who don't like large phones (in terms of surface area) in their clothes pockets. Sure it'll be thicker, and maybe some people have an issue with that, but it would potentially fit better in some situations while still unfolding to a larger screen size for regular use.

If the size in the pocket is the problem, surely the extra thickness makes it more cumbersome? It would be like carrying one of those Anker battery packs around all day (the non-travel/portable ones) would it not?

I guess compare forcing an iPad Mini or Nexus 7 in your pocket versus an original iPhone, which was much thicker than what we've had the past few iterations.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Even if the Fold has some problems, I commend them for being bold with their design and ambitions. It may be safer to wait for the next generation of that phone, but many recent developments in the hardware space have been lacking in ambition. Kudos to Samsung

I am sure all of those people with broken phones are appreciative of how "bold" Samsung has been in releasing this phone early. Personally I prefer the Apple approach with new products e.g. iPhone, iPad, Watch which is to have largely perfected the hardware before shipping but release it with MVP software which they aggressively improve.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Can't understand the appeal of a foldable screen - it looks like shit (big crease down the middle and thick when folded) and for that I get a marginal improvement on idle surface area consumption. Would love to be proven wrong but I think it's going to be a monumental flop in regards to sales.

My guess is it helps people who don't like large phones (in terms of surface area) in their clothes pockets. Sure it'll be thicker, and maybe some people have an issue with that, but it would potentially fit better in some situations while still unfolding to a larger screen size for regular use.

this is going to be worse in your pocket in every way.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Displays often come with a plastic film attached so it doesn't get scratched during transport. Maybe they assumed it was like that, and that Samsung was being overly cautious?

But that means they put a coating on that not only can be separated from the display but looks like it's designed to be. Bad engineering.

...and removing it breaks the display! Not like leaves some weird residue that makes it unpleasant to use... it makes large swaths of pixels stop working...

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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I am sure all of those people with broken phones are appreciative of how "bold" Samsung has been in releasing this phone early. Personally I prefer the Apple approach with new products e.g. iPhone, iPad, Watch which is to have largely perfected the hardware before shipping but release it with MVP software which they aggressively improve.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

Don't forget the worst heat issue the MBP dealt with[1]. If you can't even hit your base clock at idle, someone really didn't bother with QA.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8J125s4cg

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Even if the Fold has some problems, I commend them for being bold with their design and ambitions. It may be safer to wait for the next generation of that phone, but many recent developments in the hardware space have been lacking in ambition. Kudos to Samsung

They seem to innovate faster then Apple like a recent example being Wireless PowerShare (charge one phone with another). It's reported Apple will be adding that into the iPhone 11; wirelessly charge your watch or another phone with a charged or charging iPhone.

Apple’s innovation is and always has been on the manufacturing side. The fact that they can make such well designed devices AND manufacture millions of them that meet such precise tolerances and high quality is what really sets them apart. Apple has been doing this for over a decade, while other manufacturers have only (possibly) caught up recently, if at all.

I’m sure someone will chime in about the butterfly keyboard or something else, but the number of those issues is small compared to all the devices they create.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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I am sure all of those people with broken phones are appreciative of how "bold" Samsung has been in releasing this phone early. Personally I prefer the Apple approach with new products e.g. iPhone, iPad, Watch which is to have largely perfected the hardware before shipping but release it with MVP software which they aggressively improve.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

I had the iPhone 4. The antenna was a non issue.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

Don't forget the worst heat issue the MBP dealt with[1]. If you can't even hit your base clock at idle, someone really didn't bother with QA. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8J125s4cg

That was a software issue which they patched soon after. Dave Lee did re-review the unit after the patch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTguywiC9aw

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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> Even if the Fold has some problems The absolutely most important aspect of this $2000 device is failing within days. The only way this could be worse is if they started exploding, too. I'm exciting for neat ambitious devices also, but they have to be more than paper weights. If these are all failing so soon, either there was no QA whatsoever, or some QA manager within Samsung was ignored...

> The only way this could be worse is if they started exploding, too. Give it a few months. This is like a 1980s plastic lunch box. The moulded hinge always snapped in half after about 3 months regardless of what you did. Cue optimus prime letting your lunch out all over the floor. I think they are failing because it was a fucking stupid idea. Edit: If anything I want NO mechanical components on any handheld device I…

> "Edit: If anything I want NO mechanical components on any handheld device I own because in the last 40 years of my life everything has broken mechanically eventually."

your anecdote seems to suffer from cognitive bias. screens are non-mechanical (except in this galaxy fold) and yet they're still the most broken component in a phone.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Even if the Fold has some problems, I commend them for being bold with their design and ambitions. It may be safer to wait for the next generation of that phone, but many recent developments in the hardware space have been lacking in ambition. Kudos to Samsung

Had this happened to Apple, there would be an uproar. Samsung’s $2000 phone breaks in two days? Kudos to them for being bold and brave. Smh.

I don't think that's true. If Apple released some samples to reviewers, and they had problems, two things would have happened:

- Apple would have NDA'd the problems out.

- People would excuse the pre-production state of these devices.

Mostly we don't care because it's not something people are seriously considering buying. It's a flashy thing that's crazy overpriced. It's like reading about Bugatti reliability problems. Boo hoo.

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