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Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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Out of all of the people I know who own tesla, I have yet to meet anyone who bought one without autopilot. I don't understand why would you decide to purchase tesla over other electric cars if it was not for autopilot. If you want electric without autopilot - there are better options than tesla, so maybe the reason why they removed it was because a vast majority of people were purchasing the autopilot model, and offe…

> If you want electric without autopilot - there are better options than tesla Please do tell me these better options as I had been considering a Model X but do not want to be forced to buy autopilot. I just looked into Audi eTron after reading this update and it only has 200 miles of range. Everything else about Tesla is the best - range, UI updates, supercharger. What other electric car is a “better option?”

Is 90 miles more range and a second better 0-60 worth 25 grand to you? If so, yeah, Model X is it. Otherwise, Audi has a great UI (wireless Car Play, even) and a quickly expanding fast-charge network.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#73

With no financing partner in place this is a major cash-negative move for Tesla. Some shorts have been predicting Musk would do this to try and clear out inventory and improve demand optics before filing for bankruptcy. https://twitter.com/whistlerian1834/status/10965848934824632...

Shorts have been predicting Tesla's demise for a decade. I would love them to keep making these predictions

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#74
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There is no way any of these model 3s end up in an autonomous ride share. Especially with only cameras and no LIDAR. I guess it does give them cover for not offering the option to buy at the end of the lease. Wouldn’t be surprised if they reverse this in 2-3 years.

Sometimes I wonder if the much-ballyhooed short-sellers actually work in the Tesla marketing department :-) I know that companies get a lot of flak for saying hedged things. But Tesla could really benefit from some hedging. This pronouncement in absolute terms that there will be no lease-end buyout is ridiculous. It depends entirely on future factors unknown today (to us or Tesla), whether they will give customers th…

That doesn't make customers think that FSD is Any Day Now so they'll spring for the option when they order.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#75

I think the title of this submission should be changed to 'Tesla removes 35k Model 3 option' or similar. Their cheapest option is now a bit under 40k USD because they're including autopilot as standard.

That would be an incorrect title, since Tesla is still selling the 35K model

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#76

Uh, wait. They're taking the Model 3 Standard off the menu....so.....that means the $35k version just got stopped? Sigh. It's a bit sad for me because I have been a bigger fanatic for this company than almost anyone, for maybe 9 years now, and my passion is fading. I recognize how hard the thing they're doing is, and how they're doing everything they can...but the repeated dishonesty is just very off-putting to me. I…

> Uh, wait. They're taking the Model 3 Standard off the menu....so.....that means the $35k version just got stopped? You can't stop what never began to move in the first place. There has never been a single reported delivery of the $35k model. There have been a LOT of complaints about delayed deliveries however. EDIT: Seems I'm getting downvoted. Lemme put up some sources then. https://electrek.co/2019/04/04/tesla-mo…

If anyone actually bought the base model this is kind of an upgrade for them TBH. Plus now they have the option to software upgrade their car, which they wouldn't really get - especially with the manually adjusting seats.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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There is no way any of these model 3s end up in an autonomous ride share. Especially with only cameras and no LIDAR. I guess it does give them cover for not offering the option to buy at the end of the lease. Wouldn’t be surprised if they reverse this in 2-3 years.

I don’t understand why they refuse to at least add forward-facing LIDAR. Lane paint sabotage, low-contrast lighting situations and construction are just a few risks that make me nervous to trust autopilot at highway speeds. I say this as someone that is bullish on autonomous driving and in awe of Tesla in general.

>Lane paint sabotage

Do you also worry about these saboteurs surreptitiously removing stop signs so that you drive into traffic?

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#78
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>> Please note, customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease, because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update, we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network.

There is no way any of these model 3s end up in an autonomous ride share. Especially with only cameras and no LIDAR. I guess it does give them cover for not offering the option to buy at the end of the lease. Wouldn’t be surprised if they reverse this in 2-3 years.

It's not like they only have cameras, they also have radar and ultrasonic sensors. Here is a good article on this topic: https://cleantechnica.com/2016/07/29/tesla-google-disagree-l...

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

#79
I love Tesla and Elon Musk for what he's doing for the humanity but paying $21,144 ($3000+36*$504) for 36-month, 10K miles/year lease is insanely costly. I can think of buying a Tesla but can not think to lease it at this price point.

Re: Model 3 Lease Available

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If you expand the lease details, it's $3000 downpayment but $4199 due at signing. plus taxes and fees.

What people are willing to pay for cars amazes me. Esp to rent a car they don't own. $4199 is $1399 more than I paid for (at police surplus) the 2011 car I've had for a few years. It costs me significantly less than $500/mo to operate and repair. The 2007 before, cost less and lasted 5 years before I wrecked it. I have the money, I earn more than $200k/yr, I just the value/cost for new cars is just not worth it.

It is truly amazing, but then again, if you look at the percentage difference, so is paying for a latte at most places etc etc. To each his/her own. I say let the money flow because at the end of the day, it's just paper and numbers, and the joy of toys is priceless, not to mention the economy sort of depends on it!
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