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Why was this marked dead? It doesn't seem off-topic or anything.
Green users often get their comments deaded. Possibly because they used the word "sockpuppet" which would definitely be a heuristic for low quality flamebait.
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Yup, even custom css to help point out who you should downvote.
That's really interesting. Can you point to a github repo or chrome extension or something?
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Omg, this is awesome. I love this quote: > "You don't count what day it is when counting days, I just explained that. If today is SATURDAY, it's not 2 days until SUNDAY now is it?" The sheer concept that Sunday to Sunday = 1 week versus Sunday to Saturday = 1 week is kind of bending my brain.
"Sorry to hijack, but Josh dude how are you arguing with a calender?" "He is in Josh world. The g'damn dumbest world in the universe!" Classic. Reminds me of arguing Xbox vs Playstation as a teen on neogaf.com.
Any miscers checking in?
Elliot Rodger posted on the Misc subforum. In retrospect, reading his posts is like a morbid dark comedy - the lack of social awareness, the insecurity, all shone through to the point of feeling insincere. It could very well have been a troll, there was no way to know. It's no wonder he barely aroused alarm despite posting his ideologies on many a public forum including Youtube. He indirectly mentions posting on Misc…
The stuff he wrote was so unbelievable that it seems to be designed to trigger some members. I specifically remember a post where he bragged about having a bmw and still had no luck with girls and he saw in a Honda with a pretty girl and he couldn’t believe it.
It was so outlandish it was impossible to take seriously.
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Yup, even custom css to help point out who you should downvote.
That's really interesting. Can you point to a github repo or chrome extension or something?
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>He convinced a lot of people that he was an expert at all things science despite using an incredibly immature writing style I find this hard to believe considering the many years I spent on his forum, and especially in comparison to many of the advice touted by gurus from other hubs. One excerpt: -11th November 2012, 11:57 PM -How a dose of GHRP-2 affects a change in GH - CHARTED OUT "Sometimes people seem to get co…
He was a fraud that put his parents in legal peril with his scam. He claimed "Tom" synthesized the compounds in America when in reality they were sourced from China. He doesn't have the required skill to test these compounds for purity and heavy metals. He put many people at risk for financial gain.
However, what made Dat and his forum unique was their focus on health and wellness. Bodybuilding was one small area that could benefit (in limited cases) from the use of peptides.
>He was a fraud that put his parents in legal peril with his scam.
I am not arguing that he was ethical. I am simply stating that the information gathered over time in the forum was invaluable. Many people contributed their knowledge and expertise on a variety of subjects to lengthy discussions. I would argue that readers of HN would find a forum like this very intriguing and worthwhile.
Stating that he was a fraud does not invalidate the knowledge he and others shared.
>He put many people at risk for financial gain.
This is partially correct. Let's look at "...for financial gain":
From his arrest and the investigation, in fact, he received immunity (IIRC) and likely gave away his list of buyers which included Olympic athletes and major sports stars (a good reference for the NYT article is actually an Al Jazeera documentary on sports doping: see https://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/the-dark-side.html). In the coming years we may learn more about some of his buyers.
Now, for the first part of your statement:
>He put many people at risk
Dat did not push peptides onto any participants on his forum. Many anecdotes (and from my own experience as well) show that Dat actually recommended members NOT to use peptides for many of their illnesses or other troubles. The application of peptides falls into a small band of uses: muscle rejuvenation and recovery; stimulating GH release in an older age; maximizing IGF-1 and cellular swelling for optimal hypertrophy (and a few other applications). Peptides are not a miracle cure and do not provide the same benefits as other PEDs.
Practitioners who used peptides knew fully well what the risk of application was. Nothing was peddled as completely safe and harmless; people were, after all, injecting exotic compounds into their body without proper medical supervision.
People who used peptides and other PEDs did so out of their own motivation and will, and knew fully-well what the risks involved were.