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Re: Explaining Sex Rate Changes

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I've noticed this disparity within my friend circles. The objectively attractive men match/sleep with multiple woman a month where almost all of the men with near average looks get approximately zero matches. Interesting indeed. My female friends match with almost every male regardless.

Hey, this is fine, I love single mothers. The guy who's fucking three or four girls will leave three or four single mothers ready for me :)

Please don't do this here.

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In a way, this mirrors how technological advances have created winner-take-all markets in other areas. Thanks to CDs (and then the internet), we can now all listen to the very best musicians in the world — where previously we just had to settle for whoever was the best in our town. Similarly, technology may be shifting the dating/intimacy market toward a winners-take-most equilibrium, which favors the most attractive…

The internet and dating apps surely play a part. It's also become more acceptable to be non-monogamous. I lived in the bay area for a while and hung out among queer circles in San Francisco. It seemed like nearly everyone was polyamorous and uninterested in being in a monogamous relationship. So much that I felt kind of obligated to try the poly thing myself for a while if I was going to date.

I am a little worried about the medium/long-term impact on society. Not because I find non-monogamy morally objectionable or something, but because having a stable long-term partner seems like it can be beneficial in helping people through hard times. It also seems to me that if a sizeable chunk of young men end up feeling undesirable, unwanted, and frustrated, the consequences won't be pretty, we all lose.

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porn is not a replacement for a relationship with a person, casual or serious.

Of course it's not but VR porn is a big step from video porn. There will be a percentage of men who will be satisfied by it just enough to wait longer (at 30+ it could become easier for them). Don't you think that this could lower the destabilizing effect?

No, it's not a big step from normal porn. There's no amount of any sort of porn that can replace sex with another human. I'm saying this as someone who frequently (once / day with an occasional off day) masturbates. People don't seek sex simply to orgasm. That is highly naive and reductionist.

Re: Explaining Sex Rate Changes

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My napkin paper theory is that for nonmarital* sex the internet has made it easier for people to find partners, with the overall effect that the bottom ~1/3 of men cannot find partners. Generally women are more selective than men when it comes to casual sex, and desirable men are usually willing to have sex with multiple partners. I recall studies that found that the top 20% of men on dating platforms account for 80%…

Yes, women controls the access to sex but of the men that do get the sex, those men controls the access to the relationship.

See it really is supply and demand. If a stud can get access to so many women, why would he commit so easily to just any relationship?

Like the tech job market, you have top companies getting most of the applicants and being super selective. Eventually, some women will have to settle on a lesser company or University.

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I honestly believe the rise of incelibacy will lead to increasing destabilization of the US. There's nothing worse for a country than a bunch of lonely angry men without jobs and without sex.

When I was younger, I wanted sex all the time. But around the time I turned 29 or 30 I rapidly began to lose interest in sex. It was like someone turned off a switch.

It doesn't seem normal - I should want sex more than I do. I'm healthy and my hormone levels are normal. Maybe I'm an outlier, but I wonder how many people aren't having sex because, for whatever reason, they're losing interest at a relatively young age.

Re: Explaining Sex Rate Changes

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> As the article points out, young men are having sex less often, but young women are still having sex at nearly the same rate. No, the article points out thar fewer (proportionately) young men are having sex, while the same proportion of young women are having sex. That's not the same as the less often / same rate description you give. > I wonder if dating apps (Tinder, Bumble, etc.) are leading women to have sex wi…

> fewer (proportionately) young men are having sex, Thanks. That's what I meant, but I certainly should have worded it better. I've updated my comment. > If we assume that people with homosexual orientation attempting to conform to a heteronormative society would tend to have more trouble maintaining stable relations and thus cycle through relationships more frequently... So if I understand you correctly, your theory…

> So if I understand you correctly, your theory is that closeted lesbians were sleeping with so many men that it inflated the statistics?

Well, it's an effect which would explain the results. It's not really my theory, which is that it's a complex of different things, including several that the author explicitly dismisses without any significant basis (or by citing a basis which seems incorrect.) The homosexuality one is one of them.

Most of the series of things the author asserts affected both sexes similarly (“obesity, porn, video games, social media, dating apps, and wariness re harassment claims”) seem likely not to have done so similarly (that's seems particularly true of both porn and wariness re: harassment claims.)

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