Whatever DNS you have, the Government like South Korean one will tap, monitor and censor it as it wants to.
Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
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Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're cool with Google, a company whose primary business is tracking people, seeing all your DNS, but not your ISP, whose primary business is delivering network access, notwithstanding their bumbling efforts to branch out. Now, Google does claim they don't track DNS requests. But consider why that is? Once upon a time they didn't scan Gmail content either, but that was before GMail dominated the webmail space. Wh…
Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on DNS or Gmail. > Now, Google does claim they don't track DNS requests. But consider why that is? Once upon a time they didn't scan Gmail content either, but that was before GMail dominated the webmail space. You seem to assume that it's a singular organization with a unified agenda, but this really isn't the case. It's the same thing about when folks assume Google looks at you…
"Google DNS: speed up DNS, which improves load times, which improves the overall web experience."
Oh, just stop.
It's even more disappointing to consider that you believe this to be true.
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#73Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on DNS or Gmail. > Now, Google does claim they don't track DNS requests. But consider why that is? Once upon a time they didn't scan Gmail content either, but that was before GMail dominated the webmail space. You seem to assume that it's a singular organization with a unified agenda, but this really isn't the case. It's the same thing about when folks assume Google looks at you…
"Google DNS: speed up DNS, which improves load times, which improves the overall web experience." Oh, just stop. It's even more disappointing to consider that you believe this to be true .
What exactly is it that you believe is the truth then?
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#75How hard is it to make a personal use raspberry pi dns server that assembles a local database using the consensus of a bunch of major sources?
Like pi-hole.net?
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#76More people should be running their own mail servers, their own web servers, their own IRC servers, etc. But I don't think we are ever going back to that direction. The arguments and benefits for running one locally are not enough the trouble as well. Performance? Due to DNS caching at the resolver level, it is probably faster to use Google's 8.8.8.8 or CloudFlare's 1.1.1.1, than anything local (where all dns request…
The only chance we have for people to run their own services is if we make it dead easy to do so and the advantages are clearly communicated. Unfortunately, that hasn’t been open source’s forte historically.
> ”The only chance we have for people to run their own services is if we make it dead easy”
In the case of DNS, it’s dead easy if the server is built in to home routers.
Many of them do, in fact, ship with local DNS already - it’s just that many users override it with 8.8.8.8 or whatever.
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#77More people should be running their own mail servers, their own web servers, their own IRC servers, etc. But I don't think we are ever going back to that direction. The arguments and benefits for running one locally are not enough the trouble as well. Performance? Due to DNS caching at the resolver level, it is probably faster to use Google's 8.8.8.8 or CloudFlare's 1.1.1.1, than anything local (where all dns request…
> I would love a de-centralized web, but it is pretty hard to go back. As the powers that be continue to centralize and exert control in a negative way, I have a feeling the pendulum will swing the other way once people get annoyed with it. Kids are already using VPNs to circumvent controls. Need to make a cyberpunk-esque decentralization kit for the next generation to adopt.
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Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#78I have my own home server on a standard consumer Comcast internet (cheap plan at 60mbps) running c0d3.com, and the students that are learning how to code on it never had any issues with stability (except that one time where I had a power outage at home).
I also have my router configured to use our server as a DNS server and the speed is incredible. Since I'm hosting my sites at home, when people in my WiFi network use my sites it feels almost instantaneous (because network request resolves locally)
3 of my students were inspired to set up their own servers and they love the experience so far. Finding people who run their own services is so rare, I hope more people do it.
I am concerned about security implications though. Could people hack into my home server, then hack into the router, and then launch a man in the middle attack?
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#79More people should be running their own mail servers, their own web servers, their own IRC servers, etc. But I don't think we are ever going back to that direction. The arguments and benefits for running one locally are not enough the trouble as well. Performance? Due to DNS caching at the resolver level, it is probably faster to use Google's 8.8.8.8 or CloudFlare's 1.1.1.1, than anything local (where all dns request…
I've been thinking there could be a kind of NUC with cable or DSL or fiber adapter cards, and a bunch of basic services, with a good firewall and whatnot. And an update service, ideally free, for as forever as possible.
Re: Paul Vixie thinks more people should be running their own DNS servers
#80More people should be running their own mail servers, their own web servers, their own IRC servers, etc. But I don't think we are ever going back to that direction. The arguments and benefits for running one locally are not enough the trouble as well. Performance? Due to DNS caching at the resolver level, it is probably faster to use Google's 8.8.8.8 or CloudFlare's 1.1.1.1, than anything local (where all dns request…
Pihole's default lists and using opendns upstream is pretty solid. In my experience their databases are thorough.