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Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

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Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#71

Congratulations, there's now a pop-up added to every single website on the internet that isn't blocked by adblockers. It makes zero difference to me whether the pop-up is telling me about cookies or advertising "huge anime tiddy" it's still an obstruction and a delay.

This Firefox add-on hides of most of them: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a...

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#72

What people miss about the new GDPR notices, compared to cookie warnings of yore, is that they offer you the choice of opting out. In my experience, the option is usually hidden (look for “options”). But a surprising number of sites do actually comply and make this not prohibitively obscure.

It was my clear understanding that "pre-checked boxes" would be illegal. Meaning that if you want to have 200 trackers on a page, then the user needs to click accept to all 200 trackers. So that if you just dismiss the "Cookie warning", you would be default get no tracking. That pretty much solves the issue right there, most people would effectively have zero tracking.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#73
this gdpr....argh.. all smoke and mirrors bs leftist incompetence, breaking the www experience, luring users into using even more more opaque 'apps' (usually simple ux making http api calls). The real question is who will be siphoning 'our' (eu) data in the near future (more), china, u.s. or full on balkanisation?

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#74

Its too bad nobody invented a browser header to be sent with HTTP requests for Allow-Cookies: SURE_YES_WHATEVER_OMG_STOP_ASKING_PLZ

The name for such a header should have been included in the EU directive about cookies.

HN, can we get a political movement going to make the EU adopt this?

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that is great. But I think it might be a case where Troy notes, you're educated on the topic, and like cookie tracking, you probabbly could have dealt with cookie tracking before GDPR too on your own. I'm not at all sure that applies to more than a handful of people. If that's the case, GDPR is not helping most people.

I entirely agree with the premise that citizens don't know their rights well enough. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be available to them. Most people don't know how to read nutrition labels either; they're still there and it's a good thing they're there. Do you think they should be removed simply because people don't know how to read them? I can make the same argument as to why I believe open source is importan…

I'm not saying remove them, but I wouldn't argue they're useful if people did not read them....

I've seen nutrition labels reworked repeatedly.

Privacy laws aren't going to be helpful if most people don't know. Even if I opt out on say my phone... it doesn't matter if they get much of the same data form my friend's phone, about me...

I think there's a lot of GDPR banner waving and it's really not helping. People think any criticism of GDPR is a suggestion that it shouldn't exist. You can belive in the ideas, and think GDPR has failed too.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#76

Its too bad nobody invented a browser header to be sent with HTTP requests for Allow-Cookies: SURE_YES_WHATEVER_OMG_STOP_ASKING_PLZ

The next best thing is uBlock filter list. What if I told you... [1][2]

[1] http://prebake.eu/

[2] https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#78

FTA he's quoting: > And the Dutch DPA’s guidance makes it clear internet visitors must be asked for permission in advance for any tracking software to be placed — such as third-party tracking cookies; tracking pixels; and browser fingerprinting tech — and that that permission must be freely obtained. Ergo, a free choice must be offered. Neither cookies, nor tracking pixels, nor browser fingerprinting are software. Yo…

> It seems pedantic, but I think it shows that the lawmakers have an underlying misunderstanding of how tech (and the world) works.

In Germany, they actually demanded an "Internet eraser" (https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Digitaler-Radiergumm...) [so ridiculous I don't think anyone ever attempted to translate] so content, mostly images, would somehow 'automatically expire'. Never worked, images could be screenshotted, etc. etc. Said this was "highest standards made in Germany". Never made sense, never took off.

The US came up with Snapchat.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#80

What I don't understand is why websites hosted outside the EU, for non-EU users have the cookie banners. At least keep it in Europe, use the IP to geolocate, let the EU users deal it. Some companies have outright banned EU traffic, sounds like only showing the banners for EU IPs seems ok.

The sibling comment is right -- and furthermore, thanks to holdovers from colonialism, the EU is a vast area that the sun never sets on. Reunion, French Guinea, and Curacao are just as European as Bruxelles is.
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