If you want to have freedom then you have to accept that a free life is a messy life. I don't support centralized internet ID systems for the same reasons I don't support a national identity card: it's a central point of control that will inevitably be used by the government against its citizens and corporations for profiling and targeting all of us. As much as it may appeal to the tech mind to have things in nice li…
Coding Horror: Your Internet Driver's License
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#72I miss the point why we really need some sort of "identity providers" when it's we who possess our own identities. It's the login-password pairs which are inconvenient (and, a lot of time, insecure) part out there. So, logically, the straight answer seem to be to get rid of this part in favor of something more usable, users can possess to prove their identities. For example, improving browser support for public-key c…
That's because the question answered wasn't: "How do we solve the problem of user identity on the web?" The actual question answered was: "How do we solve the problem of user identity on the web using web services?" Once you define the problem that way, OpenID becomes the logical best solution. However, it's hardly the best way to do it in any general sense.
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#73> It always pained me greatly that every rinky-dink website on the entire internet demanded that I create a special username and password just for them. ... For the vast, silent majority of normals, who know nothing of security but desire convenience above all, this means one thing: using the same username and password over and over. And it's probably a simple password, too. > This is the status quo of identity on th…
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#74You really have to be behind the times to still be advocating OpenID. Technology is made up of alternatives, and one wins. No matter how much you love something, if it's dead, it's dead, now move on. Every hyped technological product has a a short window in which to dominate, and if it does not, it will remain confined to a nice. That's the case with OpenID. It's over, the battle is lost. Same goes for RSS, DRMed mus…
Huh? I'm confused. I still log in to all sorts of places with my Google account, including Hacker News. And... RSS is dead? Django is dead? I'm getting the sinking feeling that I'm being trolled right now, but... Source?
Re: Coding Horror: Your Internet Driver's License
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps they are used to using a driving licence instead of passport as general ID. No perhaps about it. It seems to the average American, the word "drivers license" evokes "proof of identity" first and "proof of ability to drive a car" second, because they're using theirs as a general ID more often than for its original purpose. It gets even funnier when American companies operate abroad and require "two photo IDs"…
It seems to the average American, the word "drivers license" evokes "proof of identity" first and "proof of ability to drive a car" second, because they're using theirs as a general ID more often than for its original purpose. This is because the idea of a National ID Card is for some strange reason (strange to this American, I mean) seen as an evil thing by the general public here.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
That, and the concept of the driver's license as the definitive ID document is quasi exclusively and strongly connoted as a funny US peculiarity.
I'm in the UK and my driver's license is the only form of "official" ID I normally carry. Much to my delight, we canceled the silly project to issue government ID cards.
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#77If you want to have freedom then you have to accept that a free life is a messy life. I don't support centralized internet ID systems for the same reasons I don't support a national identity card: it's a central point of control that will inevitably be used by the government against its citizens and corporations for profiling and targeting all of us. As much as it may appeal to the tech mind to have things in nice li…
Re: Coding Horror: Your Internet Driver's License
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems to the average American, the word "drivers license" evokes "proof of identity" first and "proof of ability to drive a car" second, because they're using theirs as a general ID more often than for its original purpose. This is because the idea of a National ID Card is for some strange reason (strange to this American, I mean) seen as an evil thing by the general public here.
What the hell is a social security card if not a national ID card. Unique number assigned to each american citizen and you are forced to have it.
But we all know our number by memory.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who issued your driver's license?
But not everyone had a drivers license or a passport - so they wanted everyone to have a separate ID card. Generally, having a formal ID has only been required in the UK during dire emergencies (i.e. World Wars) and contrary to what the government of the time thought we are not in the middle of such a crisis.
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#80I'm willing to show my ID at bars and airports, to cops, and when opening bank accounts, because it's the law. And at least most of these venues have excuses -- banks want to link large amounts of your money to your ID, so they need to make sure they've got it right; cars are deadly weapons; alcohol is a potentially deadly drug. (The airlines? They really love nontransferable tickets with big change fees. And security theater. And, uh, did we mention that it's the law?)
But in general nobody asks for your ID unless they have a good reason. And I just don't see a good reason why my as-yet-nonexistent Stack Overflow karma needs to be linked to any other aspect of my identity.
At least I have a straightforward answer to my question: No, the Stack Overflowers will not give me the simple username and password that I want. It's against their religion. Good to know. I'll ask again five years from now.