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30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by newaccoutnas »

mikorym wrote: post #70
JBiserkov wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if wanted to choose the other walled garden there is this: >Please note that the Youtube recording has a time-lag on the soundtrack, so use our Facebook Live page instead for immediate access. What? CERN can't upload a coherent video+audio stream?

> What? CERN can't upload a coherent video+audio stream? I would actually like to see a good explanation of the validity/nonvalidity of this. If too many people watch this video, FB maybe has the best tech to handle the load.

Use MPEG-DASH and have CDN's deal with it...

This is CERN, the people who made the worlds largest particle accelerator and can do data aquisition at speeds that would make other's eyes water. I'm sure they could do this.

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by isostatic »

Jaruzel wrote: post #56
isostatic wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed some browsers have decided to hide it from display completely, along with other pesky things like protocol, path, query and anchor

Google are already testing stuff in Chrome to remove the URI from the omnibox completely.

One of the many reasons I use firefox (with a separate search box)

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by spaceprison »

kakarot wrote: post #52
jacquesm wrote: post #25

The Balkanization of the WWW and the network effects that keep Google, Facebook and Microsoft entrenched are going to make the web a lot less fun in the coming years. I feel more and more like a lemon that will be squeezed either way, and it doesn't matter much to me whether I get bitten by the dog or by the cat. The other article on the HN home page hits quite hard at what the web has become vs what it could have be…

I am working on a service that aims to fix the social disconnect created by Facebook et al and to redefine the idea of a social network within the context of bonding over particular interests. If this piques your interest, let's chat over email and I can explain exactly what I mean. I think there is much hope for the future of the internet and that we've just hit a nasty pothole.

Webrings!

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by EGreg »

okket wrote: post #32

30 years and the WWW is about sending people to Facebook to watch a video :(

I noticed that too. 30 years since the Web was invented, there are major problems due to centralization.

I remember before the Web there was AOL, MSN, Compuserve. The Web brought permissionless ownership and choice, and disrupted those centralized platforms. It unlocked trillions of dollars of value but enabled new platforms to appear, built on top of the Web: Google, Amazon, Facebook, which acquire other companies like YouTube. It is time for another open platform to come along and to do what the Web did to AOL.

But there are also bigger problems to solve. We just made a post about it:

https://qbix.com/blog/2019/03/08/how-qbix-platform-can-chang...

Would be interested to hear your thoughts.

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by EGreg »

arethuza wrote: post #31
jacquesm wrote: post #25

The Balkanization of the WWW and the network effects that keep Google, Facebook and Microsoft entrenched are going to make the web a lot less fun in the coming years. I feel more and more like a lemon that will be squeezed either way, and it doesn't matter much to me whether I get bitten by the dog or by the cat. The other article on the HN home page hits quite hard at what the web has become vs what it could have be…

I've been using the web since '92 and as a piece of technology it's had a great run - but I do suspect that the more locked down and closed the web becomes (not to mention almost comically intrusive at times) that it will motivate someone to create a platform that could become a successor.

Ha! At the risk of sounding self-promotional, I have been motivated to do it back in 2011. Started a company to do just that. Never took VC. I think it was ahead of its time, but there was A LOT to build. Now it’s more needed than ever.

https://qbix.com/blog/2019/03/08/how-qbix-platform-can-chang...

Met Tim Berners-Lee up at MIT two years ago about their solid.mit.edu project and tried to join forces. But ultimately they got funded and are working on their own thing.

I would love to get feedback on the above link.

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by buboard »

jcadam wrote: post #43
jacquesm wrote: post #25

The Balkanization of the WWW and the network effects that keep Google, Facebook and Microsoft entrenched are going to make the web a lot less fun in the coming years. I feel more and more like a lemon that will be squeezed either way, and it doesn't matter much to me whether I get bitten by the dog or by the cat. The other article on the HN home page hits quite hard at what the web has become vs what it could have be…

> are going to make the web a lot less fun are going to? It already has. I'm old enough to remember a time when the web wasn't considered a synonym for the Internet, when USENET was actually useful, gopher was a thing, and one could participate in online discourse without constantly walking on eggshells. I want the early 90s Internet back.

I blame phones. Without a desktop pc, people no longer run weird servers like Hotline. The internet is limited to whatever the cloud promotes. Reddit is not bad as usenet replacement, certainly better then the alternatives. We dont need to walk on eggshells if we re all a little less argumentative and stop attracting the wrong crowd - i think that point can be improved with our individual contributions. You re not going to get 90s back, no one will, but things aren’t too bad and the web is still more vibrant than all the walled garden asylums.

And then some things never change, like the group think of the tech community and its hype cycles

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by Notorious_BLT »

mikorym wrote: post #70
JBiserkov wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if wanted to choose the other walled garden there is this: >Please note that the Youtube recording has a time-lag on the soundtrack, so use our Facebook Live page instead for immediate access. What? CERN can't upload a coherent video+audio stream?

> What? CERN can't upload a coherent video+audio stream? I would actually like to see a good explanation of the validity/nonvalidity of this. If too many people watch this video, FB maybe has the best tech to handle the load.

Twitch is somehow able to handle millions of viewers at a time, and Youtube has in the past. This is CERN laziness.

Re: 30th Anniversary of the World Wide Web [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

forinti wrote: post #51
okket wrote: post #32

30 years and the WWW is about sending people to Facebook to watch a video :(

There are excellent texts and videos on math available now. I can go back to the stuff I sort of learnt in school and college and really dig into it. Just this week a learnt a couple of tricks in algebra I never heard of before. My kids have this incredible tool I didn't have and they will have a better education because of it. So there's something for everyone.

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