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Health stuff, including IVF, should not be crowd funded. These are by definition universal problems that will be addressed most efficiently collectively. The question of what reproduction society should support is entirely distinct from that of getting health care for your reproduction.
You can be perfectly healthy without IVF.
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In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that, where people need access to leading-edge potential treatments' You are also not eliminated the need to get funds, you are changing who you are asking them from. And let me tell you that government officials are seldom generous.
So you believe the US healthcare system is better than, say, the United Kingdom?
That system is great for the poor, most expensive to middle class.
I can also tell you what I think are reasons why US healthcare is so expensive, and they are not fixed by universal care programs.
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Universal healthcare. It works well in the majority of civilized world.
In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that, where people need access to leading-edge potential treatments' You are also not eliminated the need to get funds, you are changing who you are asking them from. And let me tell you that government officials are seldom generous.
Those leading edge potential treatments tend to be both very expensive and ineffective, and often cause additional harm on top.
That's from the analysis of a leading oncologist in the UK.
>Or the Tennessee couple who want to get pregnant, but whose insurance doesn’t cover the $20,000 worth of “medications, surgeries, scans, lab monitoring, and appointments [that] will need to be paid for upfront and out-of-pocket” for in vitro fertilization. Would an ideal healthcare system cover in vitro for anyone, full stop? Took a buzz through the NHS requirements[0] and there are definitely restrictions. And in v…
From my perspective, it shouldn't. Yes, its cold and heartless to say so, but wanting children isn't a health issue.
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> In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that... [citation needed]
The US has substantial incoming medical tourism. If it really were strictly worse to european alternatives (more expensive or lower quality) europeans would not go to the US.
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> On that note, I find it supremely fucked up that people have to turn to crowdfunding to get their unexpected healthcare costs covered by benevolent internet citizens. So who should pay for it? All taxpayers instead? All countries that have tried that are now in the red. The only good solution, I think, it to work to make healthcare a lot cheaper in the long run.
The US is the only major developed country that doesn't have universal healthcare and they are still deep "in the red".
We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated. The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy. Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money. The students are then on the hook…
Care to explain your logic? Cat repair isn't so expensive even though everyone with a car has car insurance.
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Jesus, this blew my mind. Not because the concept is outlandish, but because it wouldn't surprise me at all if it actually existed, and I think it would be immensely popular.
Yes! It was supposed to be over the top satire with a comical tone, but then it just ended up depressing me because it started to feel far too realistic...
"We are living in interesting times; in fact, they're so interesting that it is not currently possible to write near-future SF." -- Charlie Stross, Sep 2008
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2008/09/avalanch...
We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated. The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy. Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money. The students are then on the hook…
We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated. The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy. Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money. The students are then on the hook…
Care to explain your logic? Cat repair isn't so expensive even though everyone with a car has car insurance.